Torque Settings
Re: Torque Settings
Help,
The torque setting I need is for the exhaust manifold retaining nuts/bolts on a n/a 265 (i think / maybe 245) atom.
One of the downpipes cracked off around a weld and it's now fixed and ready to put back on.
thanks.
The torque setting I need is for the exhaust manifold retaining nuts/bolts on a n/a 265 (i think / maybe 245) atom.
One of the downpipes cracked off around a weld and it's now fixed and ready to put back on.
thanks.
Re: Torque Settings
Well, I've found some manifold torque settings but I'm not sure if they are for the Honda.
They are 106 lbs ft for the nuts, sound a bit much to me
They are 106 lbs ft for the nuts, sound a bit much to me
Re: Torque Settings
yeah, no way, thats way too much.
Small bolts like what you are looking at there are typically 15-20, and no more.
Small bolts like what you are looking at there are typically 15-20, and no more.
Re: Torque Settings
Thanks for the reassurance
They were VERY tight when they came off so I think we are looking at about 40 lbs ft when I put them back or maybe I'll bin the torque wrench and do it like I used to do the TVR, That never fialed me
They were VERY tight when they came off so I think we are looking at about 40 lbs ft when I put them back or maybe I'll bin the torque wrench and do it like I used to do the TVR, That never fialed me
Re: Torque Settings
Here's the same nut torque figures for info - with approximate foot pounds added in blue.
General
Wheel nuts 96 71
Driveshaft nuts 245 180
Suspension rod ends 5/8" 96 70
Steering arm rod end 45 33 (this ones new to this list)
Inboard suspension ½" 60 44
Engine sump plug 39 29
Gearbox oil filler plug 44 32
Gearbox oil drain 39 29
Engine oil filter 22 16 or 7/8 of a turn after seal seats down
Brakes
Standard calliper bracket bolts front 108 80
Standard calliper bracket bolts rear 59 43
Standard calliper bolts front 32 24
Standard calliper bolts rear 32 24
Alcon calliper brackets front and rear 108 80
Alcon calliper bolts front and rear 58 43 (was previously noted as 64)
Engine Mounts
Rear engine mount to engine x 2 64 47
Rear engine mount to chassis x 1 70 52
O/S engine mount to engine x 3 42 31 (top 2 x 17mm) 30 (bottom 14mm) (were previously noted as 59)
O/S engine mount to chassis x 4 27 20
Front V engine mount to engine x 2 64 47
Front V engine mount to chassis x 1 70 52
General
Wheel nuts 96 71
Driveshaft nuts 245 180
Suspension rod ends 5/8" 96 70
Steering arm rod end 45 33 (this ones new to this list)
Inboard suspension ½" 60 44
Engine sump plug 39 29
Gearbox oil filler plug 44 32
Gearbox oil drain 39 29
Engine oil filter 22 16 or 7/8 of a turn after seal seats down
Brakes
Standard calliper bracket bolts front 108 80
Standard calliper bracket bolts rear 59 43
Standard calliper bolts front 32 24
Standard calliper bolts rear 32 24
Alcon calliper brackets front and rear 108 80
Alcon calliper bolts front and rear 58 43 (was previously noted as 64)
Engine Mounts
Rear engine mount to engine x 2 64 47
Rear engine mount to chassis x 1 70 52
O/S engine mount to engine x 3 42 31 (top 2 x 17mm) 30 (bottom 14mm) (were previously noted as 59)
O/S engine mount to chassis x 4 27 20
Front V engine mount to engine x 2 64 47
Front V engine mount to chassis x 1 70 52
Re: Torque Settings
Thanks for those,
can't seem to get the manifold ones though, even the blokes at the Honda dealership wouldn't tell me, they were very cagey and either couldn't or wouln't tell me.
What is the big secret with these engines ?
I should have said it was a Honda type 'R' that I was fixing
can't seem to get the manifold ones though, even the blokes at the Honda dealership wouldn't tell me, they were very cagey and either couldn't or wouln't tell me.
What is the big secret with these engines ?
I should have said it was a Honda type 'R' that I was fixing
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Can someone make this thread a 'sticky' please so it's easier to find? Doesn't show up well in searches as it's not been posted to for so long!
Also, could somebody correct the initial post - 5/8" rod end torque should be 120nm - confirmed by factory today
Thanks,
Bod
Also, could somebody correct the initial post - 5/8" rod end torque should be 120nm - confirmed by factory today
Thanks,
Bod
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Re: Torque Settings
[quote="Bod "]
Can someone make this thread a 'sticky' please so it's easier to find? Doesn't show up well in searches as it's not been posted to for so long!
Also, could somebody correct the initial post - 5/8" rod end torque should be 120nm - confirmed by factory today
Thanks,
Bod
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Done and done.
Can someone make this thread a 'sticky' please so it's easier to find? Doesn't show up well in searches as it's not been posted to for so long!
Also, could somebody correct the initial post - 5/8" rod end torque should be 120nm - confirmed by factory today
Thanks,
Bod
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Done and done.
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Re: Torque Settings
Up from 96 to 120Nm! That's a bit different. Don't fancy doing all that lock wiring again so I think I'll leave them at 96 for now. Seem to have been ok for last few months
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Re: Torque Settings
Sutol - exhaust manifold retaining bolts (bolts to head) tighten in a criss cross pattern to 44nm (info from MaRis - Honda.com)
Stew (ex honda diagnostic technician)
Simples - anything else you need to know just holler.
I also have a full uptodate Autodata at my disposal. But I like to use the manufacturers guidelines.
Stew (ex honda diagnostic technician)
Simples - anything else you need to know just holler.
I also have a full uptodate Autodata at my disposal. But I like to use the manufacturers guidelines.
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Re: Torque Settings
Seasons greetings all!
I'm probably being thick/blind, but I've read through this a number of times and can't see the torque setting for the big 1/2 inch hex bolts on the big rod ends that mount the wishbones onto the uprights. Could someone please let me know what they should be tightened to and if its in ft/lbs or Nm?
Cheers
I'm probably being thick/blind, but I've read through this a number of times and can't see the torque setting for the big 1/2 inch hex bolts on the big rod ends that mount the wishbones onto the uprights. Could someone please let me know what they should be tightened to and if its in ft/lbs or Nm?
Cheers
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They're 5/8" not 1/2" and third on the general list
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Re: Torque Settings
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They're 5/8" not 1/2" and third on the general list
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Ah ha! That explains it then
The rod ends are 1/2 inch but the retaining hex nuts are 5/8 inch!
I was blindly fixated on the 1/2 inch bit
Cheers
They're 5/8" not 1/2" and third on the general list
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Ah ha! That explains it then
The rod ends are 1/2 inch but the retaining hex nuts are 5/8 inch!
I was blindly fixated on the 1/2 inch bit
Cheers
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Re: Torque Settings
Not quite. The rod ends are Aurora AM10T with 5/8 -18 UNF thread and 0.625 inch bore
http://www.rodends.co.uk/products/Aurora-AM10T-0.625-Inch-Bore-Male-Rod-End-Right-Hand-5%7B47%7D8%252d18UNF-Thread.html
http://www.rodends.co.uk/products/Aurora-AM10T-0.625-Inch-Bore-Male-Rod-End-Right-Hand-5%7B47%7D8%252d18UNF-Thread.html
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Re: Torque Settings
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Not quite. The rod ends are Aurora AM10T with 5/8 -18 UNF thread and 0.625 inch bore
http://www.rodends.co.uk/products/Aurora-AM10T-0.625-Inch-Bore-Male-Rod-End-Right-Hand-5%7B47%7D8%252d18UNF-Thread.html
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I must have had too many mince pies.....
Not sure where I'm getting the 1/2 inch bit from then, but it would seem I've imagined/made it up
Not quite. The rod ends are Aurora AM10T with 5/8 -18 UNF thread and 0.625 inch bore
http://www.rodends.co.uk/products/Aurora-AM10T-0.625-Inch-Bore-Male-Rod-End-Right-Hand-5%7B47%7D8%252d18UNF-Thread.html
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I must have had too many mince pies.....
Not sure where I'm getting the 1/2 inch bit from then, but it would seem I've imagined/made it up
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