Near side rear kerbed...

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Near side rear kerbed...

Post by Sir Nick » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:08 pm

My son got on the power a little too soon and the back end stepped out.  He corrected that but then hit the kerb NSR.  That wheel now has a run-out of around 3mm and gives what looks like a buckled wheel.  However the wheel is not buckled (tried another wheel on it).  Taking the wheel off does not show any thing that is obviously bent.  The bugger of it is that the car has only just had new bearings and flanges!  Grrrr!

Anyone else had experience of hitting a kerb/armco?

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Re: Near side rear kerbed...

Post by wattie » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:32 pm

At the risk of making myself look more stupid than usual.

If it ain't the wheel surely it's the axle,....or the wishbones?

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Post by ragezx14r » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:30 pm

I think A-arms are desingend to collapse in the event of an impact to absorb some of the force etc

Probably best to check wheel allignment on that wheel

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Post by Changeling » Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:13 pm

Both sides are mirror images so it may be an idea to take a measure and angle from the good side and compare.
When I hit my front hub, my top wishbone twisted up as well as collapsed out so check space between top and bottom frames.
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Post by John Scherrer » Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:57 pm

If you're only seeing a 'runout' of approx 3mm, you're not going to be able to see or measure much I would have thought.

For the wheel to look like it's running out / buckled, and it's not the wheel/tyre assembly as you've ruled that out, it suggests that the hub is now loose on in its bearings/ upright maybe due to metal displacement caused by the impact.

Otherwise surely the wheel would rotate true, it would just be rotating in the wrong plane.
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Post by John Scherrer » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:09 pm

These might help visualise the problem
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Re: Near side rear kerbed...

Post by Sir Nick » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:41 pm

Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.

"Otherwise surely the wheel would rotate true, it would just be rotating in the wrong plane"
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That's exactly the thing I can't 'see' either....can it really have bent the drive shaft?!

Is it possible the bearings/flange are out of square with the upright?  That could account for a run out.  Would re-seating these sort it? 
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Post by AtomMadStew » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:16 pm

a bent hub flange sounds feasable. 

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Post by Andrew300 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:20 am

Hi Nick I agree with John , if you get a dail test indicater and set it up on the hub, take some measurement's of movement ,it will help pin point the problem
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Post by Sir Nick » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:34 am

Yep dial tester already set up.  But it will have to wait until after the Indian GP :)  I can already see there is run-out at the hub, but it looked a strong component so I wondered if it was someting further back, not that there is much further back!

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Post by Andrew300 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:45 am

:checkeredflag: ;)post what you find ?
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Re: Near side rear kerbed...

Post by Sir Nick » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:38 pm

They say a picture paints a thousand words, so here are 2.  They show the highest point in two planes, in thou.  I left a wheel nut to to show reference.  Is it possible that the bearings have moved in the upright I wonder?  Haven't got a socket that fits the hub nut so can't go any deeper today.  Further thoughts anyone?

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Re: Near side rear kerbed...

Post by Andrew300 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:22 pm

I think you got to take the hub off and check the bearing's are rolling ok ,if there not best change them also have you got lsd on your car
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