Nomad Sump guard

User avatar
Trigger
Club Member
Posts: 2736
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:15 pm
Location: Dorking
Contact:

Nomad Sump guard

Post by Trigger » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:02 pm

Just a note to those looking at speccing a Nomad - spec the Sump guard at build time ! I didnt and after just a couple of excursions off road the chassis bars under the engine have lost the odd bit of paint. I accordingly fitted a sump guard and i have to say it is damn fiddly.

You have to drill out the 3 holes at the rear (easy), but then fit the 8 bolts into the holes while holding the guard plate up - and there is no room on some of the bolts to get your hands into !!!! It took me 2 hours of prep and then finger destroying messing about. All fitted now but still - get the factory to do it when there is no engine yet........

Just my 2p worth.

Trigger

Hedge
Club Member
Posts: 3878
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:18 pm
Location: St. Albans
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Hedge » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:08 pm

Tight git.

#toldyouso

Cheers,
Hedge

User avatar
Trigger
Club Member
Posts: 2736
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:15 pm
Location: Dorking
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Trigger » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:49 pm

Good point well made. Agreed.

T

Lighty
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 38
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:48 pm
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Lighty » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:20 pm

I have removed my own sump guard several times, and can agree it’s very fiddly.
I have the luxury of a ramp and a hydraulic gearbox stand which is perfect to rest the guard on Whilst you are trying to line everything up.
Just to make it harder, the rear fixings have spacers, which are an added problem.
The leading edge crossbar is vulnerable and mine is chipped a lot.
I spray a liquid wax all over these areas to protect.

User avatar
Karl V
Quarter Grand
Quarter Grand
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:10 pm
Location: Near Reigate
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Karl V » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:50 pm

Glad you did it @Trigger?

It is quite meaty isn't it...

User avatar
Mutley
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 30
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:16 pm
Location: N. Hants/W.Sussex/Surrey borders
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Mutley » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:14 pm

Damn. Having reviewed the spec. of my used Nomad, the only think I got the Crewkerne crew to add was the light bar - I knew what I was doing - it was purely an aesthetic deal. I drew the line at the winch which I thought was a lower value aesthetic bang for the buck.

What I overlooked was the sump guard. I recently actually turned around heading for a local BOAT when I remembered the wheel ruts. Surely the unprotected cross-member - or worse radiator - was going to ground out?

Until now I thought the only problem was the almost incredible price - £800 for that bit of bashed sheet metal if I recall correctly?

Is protecting the vulnerable front-end of this rufty-tufty off-roader really such an expensive ball-ache?

User avatar
Karl V
Quarter Grand
Quarter Grand
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:10 pm
Location: Near Reigate
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Karl V » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:40 pm

It's a tough one...

The sump guard does add a whole new level of protection to the engine and... sump.

That said, the up front protection in the form of front bumper / under radiator protection (winch optional extra) does help guage whether going in to a rut will make you cry or not.

Assuming you're moving forward, the options are: front recovery and winch bar; front suspension box and tub guard; coolant pipe guard; sump guard.

I would say the sump guard protects the bits that are more likely to get you home; but the front winch bar with under radiator protection (winch optional extra) is the most likely to allow you to 'dip you toe in' and listen for crunching noises. If the nose makes it, you have a good chance of the whole car making it.

Unless you're green laning at 60 mph, in which case there'll be no dipping of toes and you're committed.

So in summary, the sump guard does an important job in protecting vital parts, but I think the front recovery bar and under radiator protection is a must to not only protect the radiator when gingerly going off road, but also stops Toyota Prius drivers from caving in your front end at the pub car park.

User avatar
Trigger
Club Member
Posts: 2736
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:15 pm
Location: Dorking
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Trigger » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:34 pm

Just to reiterate - and echo (more concisely Karls points) the Sump guard is a necessity I now feel if using off road. It cost £200 and you can easily fit at home. Its fiddly but no more than a hour of 2 nights (as you drill the rear chassis holes out and then should paint them i feel).

The front bumper/radiator guard i also would spec too - the front is just too exposed otherwise.

T

User avatar
Mutley
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 30
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:16 pm
Location: N. Hants/W.Sussex/Surrey borders
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Mutley » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:57 pm

Doh. When I said 'sump guard' I really meant 'Front winch bumper' (unconsciously thinking "sump = front"). Which, as has been advised, seems to be #1 in the desired protection stakes - and I think several times the cost of the actual sump guard. Any experience here of fitting the 'FWB'? As my otherwise lovely pre-owned Nomad was specced without protection, I think it's where I better start.

User avatar
Trigger
Club Member
Posts: 2736
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:15 pm
Location: Dorking
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Trigger » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:34 am

Agreed that is no 1 for the protection but I would do both if you are looking at all.

User avatar
Karl V
Quarter Grand
Quarter Grand
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:10 pm
Location: Near Reigate
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Karl V » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:57 pm

@Mutley - I haven't removed / fitted my front bumper, but it looks like one of the easier pieces to fit.

There are 3 fairly chunky Allen bolts on top, at the front of the bonnet, and 1 each side down below.

I would imagine - unlike the rear sump guard - there is no need for drilling as the under radiator protection plate is an integral part of the 'bumper'.

Obviously, the guys in Crewkerne will have more learned advice than I can offer.

@Lighty fitted a winch to his earlier in the year, but don't know if he had the bumper in place already, or if the bumper was part of the fun he had with his...

Cheers.

User avatar
Mutley
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 30
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:16 pm
Location: N. Hants/W.Sussex/Surrey borders
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Mutley » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:23 pm

Thanks @Karl V

Was doing a bit of a Hampshire pub crawl on 2 legs around the Hangers north of Petersfield today. Good reminder that there are a few good BOATS that I have ridden on off-road bikes around there, and thought some would work with the Nomad. But not without some protection. So I think - as has been advised here before - I will start at the front and work back.

User avatar
Karl V
Quarter Grand
Quarter Grand
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:10 pm
Location: Near Reigate
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Karl V » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:59 pm

Good work Chris!

I met up with @Matt Hegarty earlier in the week who gets his Nomad any day now and is keen for a bit of green laning too.

Seems there is a growing murder of Nomad owners (collective noun?) in and around the Surrey / Hampshire area.

Protection against rocks is a must, but I draw the line at 1/2 meter of standing water. That shite gets everywhere, right @Trigger ;-)

Lighty
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 38
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:48 pm
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Lighty » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:59 am

I already had the front winch bumper fitted, so adding the winch was reasonably straight forward.
Wiring it up to work was a little more tricky, but the guys at the factory were very helpful in sending me pics & diagrams.
I should’ve specced the winch when new, but the cost was getting out of control, easier to afford a bit later down the line.
Not used the winch yet, but Iam sure I will in due course.

User avatar
Trigger
Club Member
Posts: 2736
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:15 pm
Location: Dorking
Contact:

Re: Nomad Sump guard

Post by Trigger » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:19 am

Karl - 1/2 metre of Horse piss and mud i think you meant - and yes - never again......well I say that now......

Ref Winch - I was in same situation - costs were spiralling so I felt I had to draw the line - I really want a removable one - so you can unbolt/unplug etc - but factory say thats just not possible. I may get one fitted next year though.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests