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[quote="Tom"]
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[quote="Tom"]
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Will the skunkwurx complete carbon light assembly be as "bulbous" as the factory option?
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I would say so - given that at first glance they look to be exact copies of Ariels work
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Oh dear, here we go again. Come on Tom, let's just get this over and done with for once and for all. Just go to my website, open an account, and buy a set of better wings for your car and lets get all this pented up frustration dealt. I promise I'll give you a discount , I really will :hug:
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If I needed to get cheap carbon bits (some of which are copied from other people designs) made in China I would, but I don't need to - so i'll pass cheers
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Is there anything ever made by anyone else besides the factory you don't consider cheap or inferior? Everyone who's ever posted anything remotely commercial you've slagged off or had digs at. Whether it be wheels or my stuff or anyone else. And to write off as everything made in China is just naive and shows the depth of your knowledge. And FYI, some of the carbon is made in Japan, the carbon material comes from the USA, the Aurora rod-ends come from USA and the lights from Hella come from Germany, the steel tubing is all done locally in Manchester, UK. DO you want to insult those countries now too?
Your attitude exactly is why you're unfit to be the president of this club. This club is supposed to be independent yet all you do is try to stifle anything that you don't agree with. I think you should put a disclaimer in your sig that you're the General Manager at Ariel and that your opinions as such are completely skewed.
It's ridiculous that I can point out faults or inferior build qualities on the factory's wings and I get PM's and emails from club officials giving me a rollocking for having an opinion from the so called moderators but then you have the audacity to make sweeping statements as above as the president of the club.
Thankfully not many people listen to your opinion and the quality of my products speaks for itself, refer to the numerous happy customers on here and the US forums that have posted back unprompted with nothing but praise, and your attitude is one of the things that keeps me motivated and producing new products. Would you like to see my upcoming designs for the rest of the body panels and the other mechanical off-the-shelf parts used in the Atom that I intend to distribute at normal prices rather than artificially inflated prices?
People love to buy but no-one likes to be ripped off Tom.
As I said in the opening post, if you don't like what I write then add me to your ignore list and be on your way. Everything that has been posted in this thread has been positive except your replies. Your attitude and the likes of it is exactly why the US club splintered off and exactly whats limiting this club from growing and shrinking instead.
Clearly I must be doing something right that's hitting a raw nerve with you.
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Cor blimey - my raw nerve?!
You really don't like me do you - a shame, but i'll live.
I'm struggling to remember all these negative comments and rants against you that i've come out with in public or in private, but for you to be in SUCH a state about it there must be something up.
The only comment I had put on your thread was just remarking that your latest product is pretty much an exact copy of an Ariel design, as are some of your other bits. And now you've got VERY excited - truth hurts I guess.
And i'm well aware of where the rod ends, lights etc that you sell come from because I spent days/weeks/months with a design team (who spent months packaging them) then testing them to make sure they were suitable, weren't going to fail, and would last well, then organised the supply of them years ago, but thanks for asking. Of course someone can come along, reap the benefits of all that hard work and knock them out at a smaller margin on the internet, but that's just life unfortunately and i'll live with it. And Club members or anyone for that matter are of course welcome to purchase anything they like from anywhere they want to.
With regards to your comment about 'ripping people off' - it just shows that 1. you don't know me/us at all and 2. you have very little understanding of our business or what it takes to succeed as a low volume manufacturer. Just remember - though you seem to hate us and everything we stand for so much, without Ariel there is no need for your bits.....though I suppose you could get chassis etc made in China as well for a fraction of the price, it's much easier to 'slightly modify' someone else's idea then flog it cheaper on the internet after all.
Anyway - i'm off camping with the family for the weekend - look forward to seeing your new products.
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Tom, I with all my actions and what I do actually am PROMOTING Ariel cars. You on the other hand dismiss or ridicule or have a dig at anyone that wants to make alternative options for the car. I don't hate you at all or the factory. I love the car which is why I have been an owner for so long and which is why I'm passionate about it. I simply cannot be bothered engaging in conversations that are completely biased and untrue and the purpose of which is nothing but to belittle competition. Again I see you can't but help have more digs about China.
With regards to knowing you, I am fully aware of the opinion customers hold. I do engage a lot in customer conversations when they purchase things, and just as on this forum, what they say in public is not necessarily what they say in private or a true reflection of their opinion. In a dictatorship, silence does not mean endorsement.
Enjoy your camping trip. Maybe in the future you'll purchase a set of upcoming sidepods from me that extend out and double up as a coffee table.
