The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by reg » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:35 pm

speedmachine wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:21 pm These use/accept a thicker pad than the oem caliper?
Yes, they’re 18mm so you get a good benefit there as well.

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by robfitz » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:28 pm

Looking forward to seeing what you think.

Pity CM is so far away from Bristol.
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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by reg » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:37 pm

I’ll be back in a few days, likely ready for the snow, but as soon as it clears up I’ll be out. Have a track day booked in March.

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by plip1953 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:17 pm

speedmachine wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:21 pm These use/accept a thicker pad than the oem caliper?
Yes, 18mm v 14mm

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by reg » Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:23 pm

Pictures just in. Looks fantastic!

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by robfitz » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:17 am

Smart. Are you going to Bedford on Mar 20?
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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by abcoro » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:06 am

reg wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:23 pm Pictures just in. Looks fantastic!

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Looks nice! Not sure about the rattle springs though...

Very curious about your experiences with this upgrade on track!

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by reg » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:02 pm

abcoro wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:06 am Looks nice! Not sure about the rattle springs though...
Yes, it's an easy thing to remove, let's see how they work out. Nice to have the option.

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by plip1953 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:01 pm

abcoro wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:06 am

Looks nice! Not sure about the rattle springs though...

Very curious about your experiences with this upgrade on track!

Cheers,
abel.
Do the anti-rattle spring go over the sleeving pieces rather than as substitutes? I'm thinking in terms of overall caliper rigidity.

But in overall terms I think they'll work really well. And with the added advantage of most likely being able to run identical master cylinder sizes front and rear.
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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by Monza » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:50 pm

Very nice calipers 👍
Did you have to change the stays or anything else or is it direct fitting ?

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by plip1953 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:16 pm

Monza wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:50 pm Very nice calipers 👍
Did you have to change the stays or anything else or is it direct fitting ?
New caliper brackets are needed.

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by Monza » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:11 am

I read that these beautifull calipers are made for 315 mm diameter discs minimum, but the AP discs are only 288 mm. Are the pads every where in contact with the disc ? or perhaps not on the pads exterior angles ?

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by plip1953 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:26 pm

Monza wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:11 am I read that these beautifull calipers are made for 315 mm diameter discs minimum, but the AP discs are only 288 mm. Are the pads every where in contact with the disc ? or perhaps not on the pads exterior angles ?
Fair point, but I've seen vids of the pads against disc fitment and it was spot on. Hopefully Ben Corten-Miller will see these posts and chip in.

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by Corten-Miller » Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:49 pm

Monza wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:11 am I read that these beautifull calipers are made for 315 mm diameter discs minimum, but the AP discs are only 288 mm. Are the pads every where in contact with the disc ? or perhaps not on the pads exterior angles ?
The pad has the full contact area of the disc with zero overhang, the radial depth of the pad aligns correctly with the backing plate and brake bell assembly clearance. The 315mm manufacturer measurement is a generic measurement as they don’t know pad radial depths being used and the measurement is more focused towards disc sizing you could potentially run. These same calipers are used on our floating brake bells 295mm but the brackets have been calculated that you still get the full disc coverage.

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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes

Post by Charlie » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:36 am

Are these not the 9444 AP 5000R pro calliper suitable for 13” wheels and therefore 280mm discs as the other calliper 9440 are for 28mm thick discs when the 9444 take a range of thicknesses including standard Ariel size of 24mm I believe.

https://apracing.com/race-car/brake-cal ... s-13-wheel



https://apracing.com/race-car/brake-cal ... iston-area

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