The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
I’ve invited the factory to give us their thoughts on the matter, if they wish, as they will have been very mindful of the high standards the marque is known for.
As I said, I’ve used AP brakes in the past to good effect. Really enjoyed standing cars on the nose. Will be interested to see if anyone prefers the APs over the Alcons.
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As I said, I’ve used AP brakes in the past to good effect. Really enjoyed standing cars on the nose. Will be interested to see if anyone prefers the APs over the Alcons.
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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
Its a small Brembo unit for the handbrake on the 4 with the rear AP brakes. Sorry I don't have the details.
Atom 4, Clio v6, & some other cars obviously.
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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
Excellent, thanks for saving me homework Brakes were next on the list, just to kill that dead zone at the top, power is there, just in the last 3rd of travel, the rest is nothing.Yorkshire wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:11 pm Tilton 74 Series Master Cylinder 7/8" (22.2mm) Bore Cylinder Only on e bay £69.48 from Competition Supplies. This will sort out long travel pedal and better feel. Mintex Pads i would have to look up but my choice may not be every bodies as i only use my Atom on circuit not the road.
Especially annoying when you want a little dab just to weight the nose up, just nothing happens
Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
Cut the accelerator pedal in half, works really well. Not my mod, so credit to Chris/Paul… seen it and it eliminates the issue with no downsides tbh.Richard Marler wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:33 pm Worth me adding here: With the brake and accelerator being so much closer on the 4, I am still not convinced that at least some of the time I am hitting the accelerator at the same time as the brake, which would obviously explain my comments on feeling and performance.
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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
[mention]Charlie[/mention] are you experiencing the same long pedal travel on the standard brakes as others are having with the AP calipers?Charlie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:12 pm I have standard brakes fitted on my 4 and was looking to upgrade and source elsewhere but everyone told me the brakes are unique to Ariel viewtopic.php?f=23&t=18521 but from what you are saying is the Alcon and AP are interchangeable can you confirm this as there are Refurbed Alcons for sale by a company on eBay or if there is any other cars that they fit as I believe the pads for the Alcons are the same as the Old Ford Racing Puma the wide arched LE back from the early noughties?
Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
I find on my Nomad - I hit the accelerator at the same time is the brake. Most disconcerting, thought would ask the factory to distance the pedals if possible
Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
Yes but my car is still running in and the brakes do seem to be getting a bit betterPhilM wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:41 am@Charlie are you experiencing the same long pedal travel on the standard brakes as others are having with the AP calipers?Charlie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:12 pm I have standard brakes fitted on my 4 and was looking to upgrade and source elsewhere but everyone told me the brakes are unique to Ariel viewtopic.php?f=23&t=18521 but from what you are saying is the Alcon and AP are interchangeable can you confirm this as there are Refurbed Alcons for sale by a company on eBay or if there is any other cars that they fit as I believe the pads for the Alcons are the same as the Old Ford Racing Puma the wide arched LE back from the early noughties?
Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
Are the factory happy to do the master cylinder switch?
GR Yaris CP for when it rains, Atom 4 for when it doesn’t.
Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
You don't ask, you don't get
Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
[mention]IanG[/mention] & [mention]Winmoz[/mention] thanks for the insight and pic of the AP + Alcon setup. I have the rear ‘sport’ brake and Alcon setup but was considering upgrading the rears too, though I mainly drive on the road... I’ve found on occasion if the bias is too far forward (great for initial bite) the rear wants to come round under very heavy breaking in some conditions. If I move the bias too far back then the performance is a bit underwhelming and I loose a bit of pedal when first applying the brake... would interested to hear how the new combo goes or if anyone has any other alternatives!
Cheers.
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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
following, some good reading.... still new to Atom driving, got used to the brakes as have the track ap set up as well.Ran Ap and Alcon race kits on Evos over the years and both brands are very good.Would be good to firm up the pedal a little.
Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
Folks, we thought it would be good to chat direct with the factory on this topic.
We've posted a summary of their response over on the members forum (hey, we have to offer some incentive to join up).
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=18628
Thanks to Tom for his time and speedy response.
We've posted a summary of their response over on the members forum (hey, we have to offer some incentive to join up).
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=18628
Thanks to Tom for his time and speedy response.
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Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
Winmoz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:21 pm Folks, we thought it would be good to chat direct with the factory on this topic.
We've posted a summary of their response over on the members forum (hey, we have to offer some incentive to join up).
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=18628
Thanks to Tom for his time and speedy response.
Hmm this is such an anti-climax after a good read
Re: The curious case of the Atom 4 brakes
Hold that thought. There’s much more to come
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