3.5R For Sale

[AlanP]

My view is that there are lots of 4s being made and there seem to be a lot being sold. The 3.5R will always be a rarer beast and, my unpopular view only, it might go down as the best thing Ariel ever made. In secret, in dark quiet rooms, with full anonymity I think some at the factory think so too. When there's an Atom 5, would you want an F40 or an F50?
A

[Fastlane]

Dear Mr Fastlane, you stick with that beauty you have now. Certainly don't decide without driving a 4, you'd miss that scream!
A

It is indeed and from what I've heard on YouTube, the scream of the 3 is a much nicer sound than the fart of the 4. I'll maybe pop up to the factory and get Reg or Steve take me out for a drive.

If you ever find yourself in London pop over and come out in mine. I suspect meeting in Crewkerne just isn't going to happen.
A

That is kind offer and I think you may be right about Crewkerne! You could always bring your R down to Falmouth...

Do you think £70k on a 3.5R is a safer money wise? Or would the 4 hold value better?

As the pinnacle of the supercharged cars, I would guess an R would hold more of its value but probably cost more to run than a 4.

[autobackup]

Atomiser

The cost to upgrade from a 3.5 to a 3.5R WITHOUT the sequential gearbox is Circa £20,000 inc VAT if you include Ohlins and the full frame mods.

Fastlane

I think that if you check the photos of the 3.5R up for just under £70,000 it appears that it has Ohlins.
However it's not clear whether it has the 2.0 or 2.4 litre engine fitted?

- the cheaper import, which I'm not sure is a genuine 3.5R (sidepods look a bit strange to me - aftermarket?) - has the Bilsteins.
The advert only says that it's a 3.5

[Fastlane]

Fastlane

I think that if you check the spec the 3.5R up for just under £70,000 has Ohlins.
I'm also not sure whether it has the 2.0 or 2.4 litre engine fitted?

- the cheaper import, which I'm not sure is a genuine 3.5R (sidepods look a bit strange to me - aftermarket?) - has the Bilsteins.
The advert only says that it's a 3.5

The £70k R doesn't have Ohlins - if you look closely, you'll see it has the adjustable Bilsteins with both the main and helper springs powder coated yellow. It has the 2.4 engine fitted - again if you look closely you can see the silver cam cover.

The cheaper one is certainly priced as an R, but I agree it doesn't look quite right.

[autobackup]

Fastlane

Having looked at all the photos more closely you are entirely right re the Dampers - they are the 10 way Bilsteins.

As to the engine I did see the silver rocker box but the advert spec text clearly says it's a 2.0 litre - hence my expression of confusion!

[atomiser]

3.5Rs are like rocking horse sh*t.

Providing they are factory maintained, low mileage, right spec and not track slags i can't see how they will lose money.

Original price was £80k with the sequential box so £70k without this and mags is strong money.

[Fastlane]

3.5Rs are like rocking horse sh*t.

Providing they are factory maintained, low mileage, right spec and not track slags i can't see how they will lose money.

Original price was £80k with the sequential box so £70k without this and mags is strong money.

I have the factory's 2017 pricing spreadsheet and based on the advert, it comes to just under £70k.

The Sadev price at build was £22,200 inc. VAT, the Ohlins were £5358 and the Dymags were £3836, so with all them fitted it have cost £97k, or £75k without the Sadev.

[CAG3D]

They made 12 from the factory, ‘R’s’ (not all with the Sadev)

Rocking horse indeed


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[Fastlane]

They made 12 from the factory, ‘R’s’ (not all with the Sadev)

Rocking horse indeed


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Wow, I thought it was more.

[atomiser]

3.5Rs are like rocking horse sh*t.

Providing they are factory maintained, low mileage, right spec and not track slags i can't see how they will lose money.

Original price was £80k with the sequential box so £70k without this and mags is strong money.

I have the factory's 2017 pricing spreadsheet and based on the advert, it comes to just under £70k.

The Sadev price at build was £22,200 inc. VAT, the Ohlins were £5358 and the Dymags were £3836, so with all them fitted it have cost £97k, or £75k without the Sadev.

Thanks for that - looks like in 2014 there was poetic license https://www.motor1.com/news/46680/ariel ... price-tag/

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... ars-launch

And £28k quote from the factory was pulled from the air.

What was the charge for the power hike and side pods?

[speedmachine]

Iirc, the factory were quoting around £28k to upgrade (labour power, wheels, suspension and sequential box) on a 3.5 s/s

Does that sound right? Or is it more?

You can forget about this. I wanted to do a box only (had the other R stuff used) but the chassis on a 3.5 is not ok to fit the box, so it is a complete strip, weld the bracket in place, ship chassis to chassisbuilder and powdercoater company and total rebuild….thán the box wás indeed a 22k upgrade, but that price also includes not taking the stock box, so count an extra 7k to that price. I was looking at 35-40k range for box only ánd the they added they rather not did the build…

[Fastlane]

3.5Rs are like rocking horse sh*t.

Providing they are factory maintained, low mileage, right spec and not track slags i can't see how they will lose money.

Original price was £80k with the sequential box so £70k without this and mags is strong money.

I have the factory's 2017 pricing spreadsheet and based on the advert, it comes to just under £70k.

The Sadev price at build was £22,200 inc. VAT, the Ohlins were £5358 and the Dymags were £3836, so with all them fitted it have cost £97k, or £75k without the Sadev.

Thanks for that - looks like in 2014 there was poetic license https://www.motor1.com/news/46680/ariel ... price-tag/

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... ars-launch

And £28k quote from the factory was pulled from the air.

What was the charge for the power hike and side pods?

The 350bhp upgrade was £9528.

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[CAG3D]

£28k, it’s not silly, it will / could, to the right buyer, add £28k to the car.

So, my manmaths calculator actually states it’s free……..

The best things in life a free


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[speedmachine]

£28k, it’s not silly, it will / could, to the right buyer, add £28k to the car.

So, my manmaths calculator actually states it’s free……..

The best things in life a free


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For 28k I would have done it, but its much much more

[CAG3D]

Going back to the original question then, a true factory built 3.5R, used, £70k OR an Atom 4 for £70k?


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