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Karlo

Re: Deronda Type G V8

Post by Karlo » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:45 am

The built in crash protection is a nice feature.  :tu:

http://www.derondausa.com/specs.html

DarthChicken

Re: Deronda Type G V8

Post by DarthChicken » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:51 am

That would be an awesome car... excempt WTF!? is it with the styling?  I love it looking at it one way, and then the next picture :-\  :td:

If they'd just tone it down a little it would be a real winner IMO.

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Re: Deronda Type G V8

Post by Bruce Fielding » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:36 am

You should see it in the metal.

It's not a pretty sight.

Stevo and I looked at one a couple of years ago. Our eyesight has thankfully recovered since.

Seriously, it's not a bad homage... but the build quality then was rubbish. I assume it's come on a bit.
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Karlo

Re: Deronda Type G V8

Post by Karlo » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:24 pm

[quote="Bruce Fielding"]
You should see it in the metal.

It's not a pretty sight.

Stevo and I looked at one a couple of years ago. Our eyesight has thankfully recovered since.

Seriously, it's not a bad homage... but the build quality then was rubbish. I assume it's come on a bit.
[/quote]

The company  www.autosportdevelopment.com is big in to racing and the parent company  www.trentonforging.com "seems" to have the backing to make the product.   A friend  and I  will be doing a factory visit this summer and we will report back.
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DarthChicken

Re: Deronda Type G V8

Post by DarthChicken » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:34 pm

I registered on their site... gave them my email, and no phone number... last night.

Jim emailed me this morning saying "Please email me a phone number where you can be reached along with the best time to contact you. I would like to speak with you live about the Deronda."

I don't think so  :-*

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Re: Deronda Type G V8

Post by 356speedster » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:39 pm

Oh my.  That's really not a pretty sight..... and I though the X-Bow was ugly!!

In all honesty tho', it's got to be very hard for anyone to make a car similar to the Atom / Cater-field, etc and make it look nice these days.  The comparable designs are all quite well established, to compete in the same market on a styling basis it goig to be a nightmare.  I wouldn't want to try to design such a car these days....

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Re: Deronda Type G V8

Post by Steve Gibson » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:51 pm

Are Deronda really still going? It was a rough looking thing about 5 years ago, and some of the UK auto press buried it for its poor handling. All credit to them for persistence!
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Karlo

Re: Deronda Type "F" V8

Post by Karlo » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:35 am

Talking with the people at  Auto Sport Development, they say the LS7 prototype will be at the factory this summer for our visit.  They have added 5 inch to the length and totally redesigned the suspension.  Like most manufactures I bet they are doing alittle wait and see what kind of public response. 

:pop:

curt

Re: Deronda Type "G" V8

Post by curt » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:02 am

I received a Deronda newsletter:

The "Type G" Newsletter
April 2008
Issue Number: 001
WHAT'S NEW
It has been awhile since we've released new information on the development of the Deronda sports car. The last twelve months at the Trenton factory have been busy! We are happy to announce that the US version,the Deronda "Type G" is now in production. There have been some significant updates to the car which have enhanced quality, performance and safety. The first three cars are in production and orders are currently being taken for the next 15 cars.

WHAT IS A "Type G" YOU ASK?
The "Type G" is the V8 powered version of the Deronda sports car.
The engine of choice for the Deronda "Type G" will be the GM
LS2 V8 crate engine as standard. Horsepower and torque are rated at
405/405 respectively. The LS2 can be mated to a Porsche G50 transaxle.
Optional upgrades will include the GM LS7 crate engine. With the
"Type G" weighing in at 1700 lbs I guess you could say that the "G" in
"Type G" stands for GO!

Chassis # 001 with LS7
The view from your rear view mirror
A collapsible steering column is just one of the many safety upgrades.
"Type G" SPECIFICATIONS
A DOT approved windscreen is now available as seen
on this "Type F"
Double side impact protection and reinforced dual
roll hoops standard.
"Type G" INFORMATION
The Deronda "Type G" will be sold as a "turnkey minus" component car.
Optional upgrades are available and will be quoted at time of purchase.
The "Type G" is now in production and orders are being taken. For more
information contact:
Sirius Motorsports Inc.
Jim Schofield
Office: 847-968-5516
Cell: 847-363-6303
Email: jim@siriusmotorsports.com
Standard:
®  TIG welded 4130
chrome moly chassis
(powder coated)
®  Hand laid fiberglass
body (carbon fiber
optional)
®  Laminated glass
windscreen (DOT
certified)
®  Fully adjustable
suspension with
inboard pushrod
operated dampers
®  Extra wide cockpit
with fully adjustable
seat, steering
column and pedal
assembly
®  Double side impact
protection
®  Dual longitudinally
braced roll
over hoops
®  Front crash structure
and rear crash
bars
®  6 point , 3inch
FIA approved seat
harness (driver &
passenger)
®  ATL fuel cell
®  Programmable
combination analog
tachometer
and digital speedometer
®  Lightweight aluminum
wheels
®  Many optional
upgrades available
HOW WE BUILD
THE "Type G"
STEP 1 - The Chassis
Each chassis component is precision cut and assembled
on a jig table.
The chassis is then assembled using a precision
jigging process
Every Chassis is built using 4130 chrome moly steel.
Once assembled the chassis is then professionally
TIG welded by certified welders
After the welding is complete the chassis is fully
inspected and then powder coated
The Deronda "Type G" goes
abroad.
Yes, that's right.
The first European
"Type G" is
currently in production.
The car
will be a right
hand drive and
will be sold throughout the UK &
Europe beginning this summer.
Assembly begins at
Chassis # 001 Upgrades:
·  Power = GM LS7 crate engine mated to
a Porsche G50 Transaxle
®  Factory dry sump oil system
®  Factory ECU with traction control
·  Body
®  Full Carbon Fiber
®  iPod Sound System
COME VISIT US!
Shop tours are now taking place at
our state of the art Trenton, MI
facility.
Autosport Development LLC
2331 Toledo Rd.
Trenton, MI 48183
http:/www.autosportdevelopment.com/
To schedule a tour please contact Jim
Schofield at 847-363-6303 or
jim@siriusmotorsports.com
The Deronda Type G is distributed
by: Sirius Motorsports Inc.
For more information contact:
Jim Schofield at
Office: 847-968-5516
Cell: 847-363-6303
Email: jim@siriusmotorsports.com

Karlo

Re: Deronda Type "G" V8

Post by Karlo » Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:53 am

Click here for Original PDF News Letter with Pictures

Pleas advise if the Link is not OK?
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Re: Deronda Type "G" V8

Post by DarthChicken » Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:59 am

Doesn't chrome moly get brittle if its not heat treated after welding?  I thought that was one of the reasons the atom was made of mild steel.

Karlo

Re: Deronda Type "G" V8

Post by Karlo » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:16 am

From my information Chromoly 4130 is stronger and lighter but you have to Tig weld it and stress relieve it to stop it from cracking. 

Chromoly is usually reserved for those with big budgets because it cost 3-4x as much to use.

CalScot

Re: Deronda Type "G" V8

Post by CalScot » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:17 am

It depends on thickness primarily and to some extent the weld/filler metal composition. The Atom tubing is thin enough to get away without heat treating so it's more likely a cost issue.

Thinner material does not retain the same residual stresses as the same thicker material, as a general guidline.

Karlo

Carlisle Pics

Post by Karlo » Sat May 17, 2008 2:23 am

Carlisle Pics of the LS7 version!!!!!1

[img width=800 height=600]http://www.exocars.net/attachment.php?a ... 1210978357[/img]

[img width=800 height=600]http://www.exocars.net/attachment.php?a ... 1210978524[/img]

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Re: Deronda Type "G" V8

Post by Alec » Sun May 18, 2008 10:30 pm

Sorry, but I don't think that's the best colour scheme to present that car in.  :-\
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