KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
you should look on all the mods made by KTM on its new R in particular for the rear chassis, it's not something you can do on a normal XBow, it's now a real different car.
And it's not on a video that i can see technical mods made on "normal" XBow
Of course i'm not discussing here of all personnal mods you can do on a car, but mods or option made by factories. Atom with 650 hp already exists ... even if they are undrivable !
And it's not on a video that i can see technical mods made on "normal" XBow
Of course i'm not discussing here of all personnal mods you can do on a car, but mods or option made by factories. Atom with 650 hp already exists ... even if they are undrivable !
Jean-Pascal
Atom 3.5 310 Honda LHD
Atom 3.5 310 Honda LHD
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
What? Every single modification of the R version could be upgraded!
And of course I'm not only talking about company car options, but modifications.
Anyway, I didn't want to discuss that. I just wanted to make you to think outside the box. Atom is a nice car, but I cannot imagine that it is a better trackday car than the X-Bow.
And of course I'm not only talking about company car options, but modifications.
Anyway, I didn't want to discuss that. I just wanted to make you to think outside the box. Atom is a nice car, but I cannot imagine that it is a better trackday car than the X-Bow.
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
no you can't modify the rear chassis from a "old" XBow to a new R, the engine is about 20 mm lower and the chassis itself is totaly different...
Trackday : to compare XBow/Atom "out of the box", the only one you can compare is the new Xbow R, no comparaison possible with the "old" Xbow.
Trackday : to compare XBow/Atom "out of the box", the only one you can compare is the new Xbow R, no comparaison possible with the "old" Xbow.
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Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
[quote="FlatSix"]
I just wanted to make you to think outside the box. Atom is a nice car, but I cannot imagine that it is a better trackday car than the X-Bow.
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You wanted to come to the Atom Owners Forum just to tell us that you think the X-Bow is a better track day car than the Atom? Right or wrong that just makes you a troll.
I just wanted to make you to think outside the box. Atom is a nice car, but I cannot imagine that it is a better trackday car than the X-Bow.
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You wanted to come to the Atom Owners Forum just to tell us that you think the X-Bow is a better track day car than the Atom? Right or wrong that just makes you a troll.
Atom 3 300. Surrey, England.
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
This is the X-Bow thread, isn't it?
And there was one day, where I had to decide between Atom and X-Bow and entered this forum.
Now I saw the BAC Mono and thought I could look what you guys think about it.
After seeing what you guys wrote about the X-Bow, I thought I should tell you about my experiences. But I know that there are some "enthusiasts" not willing to look left and right. No offense.
@Monza: Yes you can.
And there was one day, where I had to decide between Atom and X-Bow and entered this forum.
Now I saw the BAC Mono and thought I could look what you guys think about it.
After seeing what you guys wrote about the X-Bow, I thought I should tell you about my experiences. But I know that there are some "enthusiasts" not willing to look left and right. No offense.
@Monza: Yes you can.
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
i think Monza's statement was a reply to your question not a question wanting an answer.
the Xbow is fugly IMO - i cant get my head round the looks. Do like the idea of some ground effect and the R does look marginally better. for me its the front lights. looks like that evil transformer.
also - how much is a standard Xbow compared to an atom?
the Xbow is fugly IMO - i cant get my head round the looks. Do like the idea of some ground effect and the R does look marginally better. for me its the front lights. looks like that evil transformer.
also - how much is a standard Xbow compared to an atom?
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Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my friend.
And another good saying: When the green flag drops, the bullshit stops
And another good saying: When the green flag drops, the bullshit stops
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
Flatsix, did you ever drive at Spa ? what is your lap time for example ?
On the same twisty short track (not specialy good for the Atom), with same journalist driver (good driver), with only 5 laps in the cars (it's their rules to compare cars, not specialy good for the Atom to ) :
. Nissan GTR 2011 : 1'21"55
. XBow 240 : 1'21'20
. Lexus LFA : 1'20"64
. Atom 2 300 : 1'20"17
. XBow R 2011 : 1'19"51
The journalist was saying that he can improve the time of the Atom with more laps but was not thinking to get much more of the XBow R (easyer to bring to the limit).
The Atom is not easy to push to its real limit with such a few laps even if the journalist knows the track perfectly, for example, my brother was little bit faster than him after 5 laps even without knowing the track. It's clear that the XBox R is a good trackday car, the older ones were far from this new one !
On the same twisty short track (not specialy good for the Atom), with same journalist driver (good driver), with only 5 laps in the cars (it's their rules to compare cars, not specialy good for the Atom to ) :
. Nissan GTR 2011 : 1'21"55
. XBow 240 : 1'21'20
. Lexus LFA : 1'20"64
. Atom 2 300 : 1'20"17
. XBow R 2011 : 1'19"51
The journalist was saying that he can improve the time of the Atom with more laps but was not thinking to get much more of the XBow R (easyer to bring to the limit).
The Atom is not easy to push to its real limit with such a few laps even if the journalist knows the track perfectly, for example, my brother was little bit faster than him after 5 laps even without knowing the track. It's clear that the XBox R is a good trackday car, the older ones were far from this new one !
Jean-Pascal
Atom 3.5 310 Honda LHD
Atom 3.5 310 Honda LHD
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
Yes, but it was wet. So no reference round unfortunately.
But maybe you've been to Chenevières?
I had 1:45,2 (brakes fading)
My mate 1:44,0
But maybe you've been to Chenevières?
I had 1:45,2 (brakes fading)
My mate 1:44,0
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
i don't know this track but these are good laptimes i don't which tyres you have on you cars, a good friend of mine was in 1'44" to with a standard Atom 3 300 with R888 tyres.
Jean-Pascal
Atom 3.5 310 Honda LHD
Atom 3.5 310 Honda LHD
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
Willy waving is soooooo dull. They're both great cars, end of.
Cheers,
Hedge
Cheers,
Hedge
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
[quote="John H"]
Neither are as good as my Clio though. Fact!
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+1 john ive seen a second hand winning Clio for £20k that is cheap as chips!!
come across any xbows on track yet john?
Neither are as good as my Clio though. Fact!
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+1 john ive seen a second hand winning Clio for £20k that is cheap as chips!!
come across any xbows on track yet john?
Re: KTM Crossbow (X-Bow)
[quote="Stew Bartley"]
[quote="John H"]
Neither are as good as my Clio though. Fact!
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+1 john ive seen a second hand winning Clio for £20k that is cheap as chips!!
come across any xbows on track yet john?
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only in my rear view mirror
[quote="John H"]
Neither are as good as my Clio though. Fact!
[/quote]
+1 john ive seen a second hand winning Clio for £20k that is cheap as chips!!
come across any xbows on track yet john?
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only in my rear view mirror
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