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Re: The Bastard's Build

Post by Curves Junkie » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:19 pm

cvjoint wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:38 pm
Curves Junkie wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:12 pm I talk about the speedo in the upper right corner at the video.

Maybe the 10hz receiver is placed at the wrong place and the receiver get too much wrong electrical signals from e.g. the engine.
I have the Hondata logging OBDII, it's wired in and mounted next to the GPS receiver. But I would think the interference is minimal since it is wired.
For the moment I use the android app Torque Pro and an ODB2 Adapter. It's interesting to read that logging with the Hondata is possible and you can export all the pids to a csv-file?
cvjoint wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:38 pm
anx10us wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:19 pm Ive also had problems with DUAL XGPS 150, similar issue with lagging data recorded and large gaps per lap, it never seems to work reliably, have tried placing around the car, very annoying. I have however had great success with racebox mini, 25Hz, gets GPS signal very quickly and seems 100x more reliable ..
I was looking at that as well. What I really need AIM with the logger or some sort of dash and logger combo, because I would love to log some custom sensors as well, like IAT and IAT2s to see how well the intercooler works.
The new Racebox mini who [mention]anx10us[/mention] use it sounds interesting and the price too but it's BT.
If the interferences are the problem I want to buy from Qstarz the BL-1000GT receiver.

I know you have an US Atom with hondata. My UK-Atom with hondata too doesn't output many sensor datas. I'll have to take a closer look, maybe I can get more information from the hondata via the pid settings.
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Re: The Bastard's Build

Post by cvjoint » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm

anx10us wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:01 pm So you could use an ODB ECU logger, and then connect that and racebox mini to Harry’s lap timer or race chrono pro ?

The racebox app is great but it’s just lap analysis, doesn’t collect any external data

Clearly you’d also have the challenge of working out the formulas for the correct ECU feeds.

I’d really like to be able to log throttle/brake ?/gears/coolant temps/oli temps etc.
I used an OBD logger with Dual GPS and Harry's before, it was a bit much at times with GoPro/OBD/GPS. But now I have to wire in the Hondata, I log it in case I have engine problems so I can send it to the tuner. The Hondata software is decent for visualizing the sensors as well. But yeah, you can't add that OBD data from Hondata in Harry's.

Curves Junkie wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:19 pm
For the moment I use the android app Torque Pro and an ODB2 Adapter. It's interesting to read that logging with the Hondata is possible and you can export all the pids to a csv-file?

The new Racebox mini who @anx10us use it sounds interesting and the price too but it's BT.
If the interferences are the problem I want to buy from Qstarz the BL-1000GT receiver.

I know you have an US Atom with hondata. My UK-Atom with hondata too doesn't output many sensor datas. I'll have to take a closer look, maybe I can get more information from the hondata via the pid settings.
Torque was great too. I found some PIDs I could use for IAT and IAT2 to do a comparison on the Corvette. Hondata was supposed to be a temp solution for me but the AEM fried itself just trying to get the latest software and stuck with Hondata because it just works. I like a dumb engine that just works. I think all I have is basic compensation for air and coolant temp lol.

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Re: The Bastard's Build

Post by Curves Junkie » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:49 am

cvjoint wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm I used an OBD logger with Dual GPS and Harry's before, it was a bit much at times with GoPro/OBD/GPS. But now I have to wire in the Hondata, I log it in case I have engine problems so I can send it to the tuner. The Hondata software is decent for visualizing the sensors as well. But yeah, you can't add that OBD data from Hondata in Harry's.
I can see at your last video that you use the Hondata Flash Pro. Here you can use "20 hours on board datalogging memory" and you can save with the software FlashProManager or KManager the datas on your PC/laptop.
Check the RaceChronoPro App maybe you can add the Hondata data here - but I don't know it.

Otherwise you use RaceRender 3 here you can insert a lot of formats like video, audio, GPS-data, engine data
cvjoint wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm Torque was great too. I found some PIDs I could use for IAT and IAT2 to do a comparison on the Corvette. Hondata was supposed to be a temp solution for me but the AEM fried itself just trying to get the latest software and stuck with Hondata because it just works. I like a dumb engine that just works. I think all I have is basic compensation for air and coolant temp lol.
PIDs from the Corvette or from the hondata ECU?

I like a dumb engine that just works.

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Re: The Bastard's Build

Post by cvjoint » Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:19 pm

Curves Junkie wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:49 am PIDs from the Corvette or from the hondata ECU?
PIDs from the Corvette. A guy found the IAT2 PID on his supercharged Caddy and that was the same as the Corvette's.

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Re: The Bastard's Build

Post by Guest » Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:43 pm

An AIM datalogger like the MXP is reasonably expensive but not insanely expensive, and also expandable (sky's the limit on how fancy you want to get with sensors). Short of a Motec system, which is $$$$$, probably the best bang for the buck functionality-wise.

A "cheaper" but non-expandable Solo2 DL gets the basics done (IIRC coolant temp, IAT, TPS, rpm, and pre-calculated gear).

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