I nearly bought a Lotus...

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I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by Fastlane » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:54 am

As per my other post, Atomic vs Nomadic, over the last few months I have been thinking about changing my supercharged 3 for an Atom 4 or a Nomad to better suit the Cornish roads. Ultimately I decided I'd prefer a 4.

As there are no suitable Atom 4's on the market (and I haven't got the patience to wait 28 months for a new one) and those that are for sale seem to be priced well over list or missing the spec. that I want, I was starting to think about Exige S3s, as I'd looked at these back before I bought my Atom.

Anyway, this week I had to make a trip up to the factory in my daily to drop off a couple of parts and as always had a long chat with the ever helpful and fountain of all things Ariel, Rookie. He confirmed he'd need a couple of hours to sort things out and so instead of hanging around, I decided to drive up the M5 to visit the Lotus "agent" in Bristol to see an Exige 410 they had for sale, having made a call to them on the way.

An hour and a half later, I arrived at Rybrook Prestige's very impressive showroom complex in Cribbs Causeway - they sell new and used Bentley, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, Maserati, McLaren and Lotus from there, but strangely they had no Lotus showroom. The car I had come to see was in fact their entire Lotus inventory - a 2018 5,500 mile Exige 410 Sport, which was bizarrely stored in a warehouse across the road where they kept all the cars which had been sold - it was parked between and Hurracan and a Range Rover. The (McLaren) salesman had warned me over the phone that it had a missed service in 2020 due to the pandemic and had been hill climbed, but when I asked for a test drive he said I couldn't as the MOT had run out. On returing to the very shiny McLaren emporium, he explained he wasn't very familair with Lotus cars and that their only Lotus "specialist" wasn't there, and that when he was, he didn't really have enough to do on Lotus and so was working on their other marques. He explained that Rybrook had only recently been apppinted a Lotus agent and that the new Lotus approach was to sell Emiras & Electres direct to consumers via the Lotus website, not via the dealers, and hence why they had no new cars to show. He admitted that he wasn't really sure what the role of an agent was!

So I left Rybrook unimpressed and returned to the factory to pick up my parts, thinking how much of a contrast this was to Ariel's approach.

On returning to Ariel and whilst waiting to settle my bill, I was standing next to the factory's (5th) new demonstrator, which I'd seen on the factory's Facebook group. It has a really good spec - 350 upgrade, LSD, baffled sump, launch control, boost control, Ohlins, AP Brakes, reversing camera, Rizoma mirrors and carbon everything - including painted carbon bonnet and air intakes, which I hadn't seen before. The only thing missing from my ideal spec. was the forged wheels.

I knew that their previous yellow demonstrator had been sold in December last year (the new owner is on here) and so I asked Steve if anyone had put their name down for this one when they had finished with it.

He suggested I talk to Tom (I suppose Ariel's equivalent of the Lotus MD Matt Windle) so popped across to his office, and he was happy to confirm that they would indeed be selling it at the end of the season, that it was due to have the forged wheels fitted ( :drool: ) and that it would be advertised at list.

Needless to say I won't be buying a Lotus, as I have to put my name down for the demonstrator.

Whilst the factory runs it in for me:vroom:, I will enjoy the scream of my supercharged 3 over the next few months and most probably put it up for sale in late Summer, having taken it up to the factory for its 16th service to ensure it is fighting fit and ready for its next owner.

Here are a couple of photos taken from the factory's FB page:
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Re: I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by robfitz » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:51 pm

Nice…..painted carbon panel is an expensive way to do it for sure.

Lotus sales and after sales have been shockingly sh1t for a long time.
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Re: I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by reg » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:50 pm

The problem is with any Lotus, is that they are just another car, albeit lovely ones. I tried to replace an Atom with another solution but it routed me back to one :D

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Re: I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by mynamesnotbob » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:07 pm

Real shame Lotus dealers saw themselves as the Sales Prevention Team, truly wonderful special cars that have given me some of the greatest friends I'll ever have, but after 6 of them I just couldn't deal with the woeful service, constant backorder of parts etc I just couldn't be bothered anymore.

I hope they truly change, the Emira looks promising - but if they are taking on Porsche, they have a long way to go - firing the dealers is a good start, the industry is watching their change to agent model with interest. They have to succeed, for years they have been the only rival to Porsche for an all weather sports car

Anyway, congrats [mention]Fastlane[/mention] on the 4, as I said when they posted it - painted carbon is the ultimate humble brag, it looks a great spec!

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Re: I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by Jamier27 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:55 pm

Congrats. I am still yet to see never mind drive a 4. What is list for that spec…? £65-70?

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Re: I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by Fastlane » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:46 pm

robfitz wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:51 pm Nice…..painted carbon panel is an expensive way to do it for sure.

Lotus sales and after sales have been shockingly sh1t for a long time.
It is indeed.

Looks like they are getting worse now...
reg wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:50 pm The problem is with any Lotus, is that they are just another car, albeit lovely ones. I tried to replace an Atom with another solution but it routed me back to one :D
I do love the look of the Exige S3, but there is nothing like an Atom. What was your "other solution"?
mynamesnotbob wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:07 pm Real shame Lotus dealers saw themselves as the Sales Prevention Team, truly wonderful special cars that have given me some of the greatest friends I'll ever have, but after 6 of them I just couldn't deal with the woeful service, constant backorder of parts etc I just couldn't be bothered anymore.

I hope they truly change, the Emira looks promising - but if they are taking on Porsche, they have a long way to go - firing the dealers is a good start, the industry is watching their change to agent model with interest. They have to succeed, for years they have been the only rival to Porsche for an all weather sports car

Anyway, congrats @Fastlane on the 4, as I said when they posted it - painted carbon is the ultimate humble brag, it looks a great spec!
It seems to be a recurring theme and as you say, if the Emira is supposed to compete for Porsche customers, they are going to have to work a lot harder.

Thank you - I like your stable. Your 4 looks even better than when Simon owned it, but I do like an Atom with wings.
Jamier27 wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:55 pm Congrats. I am still yet to see never mind drive a 4. What is list for that spec…? £65-70?
Thanks, just have to wait now. Believe it or not, I've never seen any other Atom or Nomad outside of the factory, and haven't even been out in a 4 yet.
From what Tom said, it's c.£70k with the forged wheels, although I am awaiting confirmation of its full spec. by the factory - hopefully this week. My budget was £75k, to hopefully include the front and rear aero and I believe they are c.£5.3k, so I may just about sneak in on or around it.
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Re: I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by reg » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:57 am

Fastlane wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:46 pm I do love the look of the Exige S3, but there is nothing like an Atom. What was your "other solution"?
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Re: I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by Fastlane » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:27 am

reg wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:57 am
Fastlane wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:46 pm I do love the look of the Exige S3, but there is nothing like an Atom. What was your "other solution"?
I thought a Noble would be fun. It was, then a few glitches, one big bill and it went.
I should have guessed from your profile picture...
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Re: I nearly bought a Lotus...

Post by kelvin12382003 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:58 am

Fastlane wrote:As per my other post, Atomic vs Nomadic, over the last few months I have been thinking about changing my supercharged 3 for an Atom 4 or a Nomad to better suit the Cornish roads. Ultimately I decided I'd prefer a 4.

As there are no suitable Atom 4's on the market (and I haven't got the patience to wait 28 months for a new one) and those that are for sale seem to be priced well over list or missing the spec. that I want, I was starting to think about Exige S3s, as I'd looked at these back before I bought my Atom.

Anyway, this week I had to make a trip up to the factory in my daily to drop off a couple of parts and as always had a long chat with the ever helpful and fountain of all things Ariel, Rookie. He confirmed he'd need a couple of hours to sort things out and so instead of hanging around, I decided to drive up the M5 to visit the Lotus "agent" in Bristol to see an Exige 410 they had for sale, having made a call to them on the way.

An hour and a half later, I arrived at Rybrook Prestige's very impressive showroom complex in Cribbs Causeway - they sell new and used Bentley, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, Maserati, McLaren and Lotus from there, but strangely they had no Lotus showroom. The car I had come to see was in fact their entire Lotus inventory - a 2018 5,500 mile Exige 410 Sport, which was bizarrely stored in a warehouse across the road where they kept all the cars which had been sold - it was parked between and Hurracan and a Range Rover. The (McLaren) salesman had warned me over the phone that it had a missed service in 2020 due to the pandemic and had been hill climbed, but when I asked for a test drive he said I couldn't as the MOT had run out. On returing to the very shiny McLaren emporium, he explained he wasn't very familair with Lotus cars and that their only Lotus "specialist" wasn't there, and that when he was, he didn't really have enough to do on Lotus and so was working on their other marques. He explained that Rybrook had only recently been apppinted a Lotus agent and that the new Lotus approach was to sell Emiras & Electres direct to consumers via the Lotus website, not via the dealers, and hence why they had no new cars to show. He admitted that he wasn't really sure what the role of an agent was!

So I left Rybrook unimpressed and returned to the factory to pick up my parts, thinking how much of a contrast this was to Ariel's approach.

On returning to Ariel and whilst waiting to settle my bill, I was standing next to the factory's (5th) new demonstrator, which I'd seen on the factory's Facebook group. It has a really good spec - 350 upgrade, LSD, baffled sump, launch control, boost control, Ohlins, AP Brakes, reversing camera, Rizoma mirrors and carbon everything - including painted carbon bonnet and air intakes, which I hadn't seen before. The only thing missing from my ideal spec. was the forged wheels.

I knew that their previous yellow demonstrator had been sold in December last year (the new owner is on here) and so I asked Steve if anyone had put their name down for this one when they had finished with it.

He suggested I talk to Tom (I suppose Ariel's equivalent of the Lotus MD Matt Windle) so popped across to his office, and he was happy to confirm that they would indeed be selling it at the end of the season, that it was due to have the forged wheels fitted ( :drool: ) and that it would be advertised at list.

Needless to say I won't be buying a Lotus, as I have to put my name down for the demonstrator.

Whilst the factory runs it in for me:vroom:, I will enjoy the scream of my supercharged 3 over the next few months and most probably put it up for sale in late Summer, having taken it up to the factory for its 16th service to ensure it is fighting fit and ready for its next owner.

Here are a couple of photos taken from the factory's FB page:
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