Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

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Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by K20A2 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:46 pm

It was 45 plus VAT.
This is not a part they normally sell as standard.

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by smokin » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:04 am

Thanks for the info

[quote="K20A2"]
I got a blank/raw upper steering column from the factory.
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How much does a blank/raw upper column cost?

Cheers

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by K20A2 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:03 pm

smokin,

I got a blank/raw upper steering column from the factory.
If you do not modify the QR boss and/or the upper fixing ring/bearing (with the grub screw) you will end up with the about 2cm minimum.
As the raw column was even slightly longer and I had to shorten it on a turning machine, also up to about 5cm (+) of additional length compared to original would had been possible from what I remember.

The boss is welded and also bolted/pinned to the column.
A local shop did that for me.

The bolt pattern/circle is the same. However the screws are not M6 but M5. I used reducers from about 6 to 5mm and of the length of the thikness of the steering wheel to cover the resulting space. Not sure, whether this was necessary though, but well... at least it is about the steering wheel, which seemed to me to be somehow important  ;)

If you are interested to do the same construction I am happy to send you some more information.



Rocket Man,
indeed there is a seat upholstery which covers the whole one piece standard seat bench.
This was an option at the German Ariel dealer.
I guess, that the thickness is about 5mm only (if at all), which does not sound much but makes a surprisingly big difference in comfort. Its outside is synthetic leather.

The green or blue pad, which you can see on the seat is just a piece of a thin camping mat, which i use to protect the seat/upholstery against little sharp stones, when I jump on the seat to get in or out of my Atom.
It is also a great insulation for cold for back and bottom, just in case ;)

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by Rocket Man » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:05 pm

i think we need some pictures of your upholstery work on those seats, looks like you have been busy covering them

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by smokin » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:05 am

Me likey lots. Closer means I could ditch the spacer too. How's it connect to the column? Did you use their welding service? Also, is the wheel bolt pattern the same?

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by K20A2 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:57 am

The wheel now comes about 2cm closer to the seat, but it would also be possible to have it almost equal to the original one. I wanted to have it closer anyway...
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Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by K20A2 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:54 am

Pictures  :)
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Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by K20A2 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:12 pm

some months later...
I chosed the Rapfix Racing and fitted it a couple of weeks ago.
It feels quite solid, no play at all. Only about 400 miles tested so far, though.
Pictures to follow later this week.

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by ccconn » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:20 am

Meteor Motorsports I think in Wales
Very good chap Simon

C

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by Curves Junkie » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:19 pm

[quote="K20A2"]
Unfortunately only the factory is doing that upgrade afaik...
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I will see it next week.  :vroom:

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by K20A2 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:00 pm

Chris,
may I ask, where you bought it that time?
Thanks

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by ccconn » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:40 am

[quote="K20A2"]
Hi Chris,

how long (miles) did you use it on your Caterham?
Was there any difference in usage from beginning to end of your ownership?
Did the Caterham already come with the Rapfix or did you add it by yourself?

Thank you.
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Used it for about 2 years probably about 4000 miles. and it remained rock solid which is basically the selling point. I fitted it myself - pretty easy

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by K20A2 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:32 pm

Bruce,
this is quite a lot. :o
Admittedly my play is far away from that and I would not like to test such a play in an Atom.
Perhaps I am a bit too sensitive.
I had the opportunity to move the steering wheels in a couple of Formula race cars with spline quick release bosses from different manufacturers and I was very surprised, that most of them had significantly more play in the mechanism than I have.
However it bothers me and being bothered is probably the last thing I like to experience in my Atom.
So it might only be me ;)
I could imagine, that this would be much better in a 3.5 or for those, who have the steering upgrade which obviously adds much more direction stability to the front. So the play would perhaps not be that noticable because I would not have to do so many correcting steering movements anymore.
Unfortunately only the factory is doing that upgrade afaik...

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by meladdo » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:18 pm

I would say mine has about 3mm in the whole system and the splined column wheel QR interface is almost solid.

Re: Steering wheel, alternative quick release boss

by Bruce Fielding » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:02 pm

From the MOT:

Free play allowed depends on type of steering: 75mm for non-rack and pinion, 13mm for rack and pinion steering. Where there are several joints between the steering wheel and the rack, up to 48mm on a 380mm diameter wheel may be accepted.

I think you'll find that even on the wobbliest wheel, the Atom is significantly better than any of that.

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