EVs don't suit everyone.

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Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by Preseh » Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:21 am

I love those little Hondas, they look so cool! Perfect little run-around :tu:

Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by Karl V » Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:49 am

Not sure yet [mention]AlanP[/mention], I haven't driven it yet and can't until Friday when the insurance kicks in. But when I do, I'm sure I'll be doing tens of miles at a fairly low speed :) I did enjoy it on the test drive though. Plus I get to make my own V8 noises as I'm pootling along.

[mention]Antong[/mention] - no hugs necessary my friend. But if you stumble upon a turbo'd Nomad, please let me know :tu:

Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by Antong » Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:08 am

Karl,

Cool little yellow car but ref nomad - do you need a hug?
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Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by AlanP » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:56 am

Karl,

You really did get the yellow one! So, do you like it as much as we like ours?

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Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by Karl V » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:53 pm

Some 8 months late to the party, but meh...

My Nomad hole has (temporarily) been filled with a BEV (Battery Electric Vehicle).

It won't ever replace the Nomad memories. And one day - maybe we'll have a [mention]TBev[/mention] - aka Turbo Nomad. Not sure where I was going there BTW, it seemed poignant at the time of writing, but clearly makes no sense right now. Apologies Simon.

Anyway... Nomad hole. Electric cars. Honda power. School run. The future. Maybe...

Going to bed now.

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Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by atomiser » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:56 am

Hmm deals on the x5 hybrid not bad either - £731 on the monthlies with zero down ...


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Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by cvjoint » Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:49 pm

Hybrid is the ideal, and the beauty of it is that there is an infinite bucket of technologies to draw upon. For performance cars the electric bit should double up as reverse motor, alternator, adaptive aero power source, and potentially suspension height power source. This can reduce the weight in a sports car while providing instant high voltage power where hydraulic is too complex and cumbersome. The closest to this is Gordan Murray's T50 which I believe is using hybrid tech for all of these except suspension height. The Ford GT is using a hydraulic height mechanism but I think electric would work better.

Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by robfitz » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:47 pm

I thought exactly the same re the X5, ideal multi purpose vehicle.

Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by atomiser » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:29 am

Interesting view from Harry's garage where they went hybrid.

This kinda solves my towing problem and means my 40 mile round trip to work is all EV, with the added bonus that the car is fully warmed up in the winter. Sounds ok too with the 3l straight six.



Also agree with the conclusion that pure EV electric is inconvenient for long trips because of the maturity of the charging infrastructure - except for Tesla

Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by cvjoint » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:56 pm

Hedge wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:33 pm If you want to go full militant, you could of course quote this from a recent(ish) article in the LA Times:

"When a SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket blasts off on a plume of white smoke, hot gases shoot out of its 27 engines, creating a thrust equal to 18 Boeing 747 aircraft. Upon reaching orbit, the world’s heaviest operational rocket will have burned about 400 metric tons of kerosene and emitted more carbon dioxide in a few minutes than an average car would in more than two centuries".

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/ ... 0centuries.

Cheers,
Hedge
This is spot on!

I live a few miles from Tesla HQ. Most people I know don't have a car period. Of the few that have one, many are not in a position to charge one at home. Heck, there are so many break ins that the main worry is how to keep the windows on one. The roads are usually terrible around here yet, yet the vast majority of the gas money I pay goes to fix them and to pay for public transport. I think it's fair to say that many people living in the San Francisco bay/Silicon Valley still consider owning one car a serious financial burden, let alone owning a second one to fit in an electric.

If we do any out of the city trips my V8 stick Cayenne is usually one of the mules. I've offroaded with a car full of people, towed the Atom with people in the car, slept in it at times. Some days I drive over 500 miles. If a car's capabilities were to be represented by a polygon, a Tesla to me is a dot in the center.

Till this day I have yet to receive a car ride in a Tesla from a friend. Though I know many Tesla owners, I must not fit into that lifestyle. Maybe they planned out their A to B to well or have no charge to allow for the occasional passenger. Speaking of charges, I give many for free to my Airbnb renters who juice up their cars and trip the fuses. I suppose in addition to all those charging stations we have to build we also have to install meters in our Airbnb garages now.

Re: Daily Driver

by AlanP » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:07 pm

SvenTheHammer wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:53 pm
phil4 wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:48 pm I've already told you -exactly- what you've said that is rubbish... I'll do it here for a second time:
simonrhart wrote:Imagine buying an Ariel where you can only fill up at a certain petrol station - welcome to EV.
Everyone else is not saying the same thing. Each has cited specific own world experiences of why either an EV doesn't work for them, or why they have one but don't use it for specific tasks. Indeed I believe there have been 3 or 4 who have said they have an EV and why they like them. I have never said the EV works for everyone... indeed I've said it doesn't.

Misleading people on the merits... yes, of course... what applies to me is just lies isn't it.

Try actually talking from experience rather than what you've "decided" is everyone elses truth.
I totally agree with you Phil.

I’m bored senseless with the waffle that’s been coming out of Simon Hart’s gob over the last few months.

I’ve never known of such an opinionated bloke, who thinks he knows everything about anything, it’s boring.

Yes, everyone has an opinion. But sometimes it’s good to keep it to yourself.
He annoyed me so much I've not been in for weeks. Well said!

Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by CAG3D » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:34 pm

Yeh, I’ve got the Jaguar iPace, and as you said, as a 2nd car, perfect. But to have an all Electric iPace and Taycan and my long journey car to be the Atom, not ideal......


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Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by AlanP » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:31 pm

And Tony

I'm a little disappointed you've canceled the Taycan.

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Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by AlanP » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:27 pm

We've had a Honda E for 7 weeks. Done 1700 and a bit miles and absolutely love it. We're lucky enough to have off street parking and every day I wake up and it's full up. Range anxiety? That's picking my daughter up from school with a range of 3 miles and needing a trip to the petrol station.
If we want to drive 200 miles we'll use another car.

I probably love my Ariel as much as anyone on here does theirs, but the little electric car really does have its charms and its benefits. Sprightly little bugger as well.

Each to their own, but don't dis it as a 2nd or 3rd car.

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Re: EVs don't suit everyone.

by GraemeW » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:14 am

I visited a friend in SW London recently, who lives in one of those high density terraced housing streets with no off street parking. I noted the neighbours had a BMW i3 which was being charged via a cable passed out the front room window and through the sidewalk tree branches in front of the house to the car in the street. Wouldn't have thought that was legal?

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