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by **John Scherrer** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:50 am

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by **John Scherrer** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:49 am

If it helps, here's the factory mount solution for the original TomTom Rider ..

by **autobackup** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:53 am

My TomTom mount is permanently wired in to my Atom (the TomTom SatNav itself is easily removable by pressing the release button) and I have also had a 12v socket fitted which is immediately to the TomTom's right (as viewed by the driver) which allows me (or a passenger?) to recharge a mobile phone or for me to use a small 12v air compressor to inflate/deflate the tyres as necessary!

- In case of a puncture I carry both a can of 'TyreWeld' and a Gear Gremlin tyre repair kit in the cuddy under the bonnet - if humanly possible I will use the Gear Gremlin kit as using it should enable the tyre to be professionally repaired later by a tyre fitter - whereas using the TyreWeld, while it should get you to a tyre repair centre, effectively (as I am given to understand) writes off the tyre!

In the case of the Gear Gremlin repair kit the small CO2 cylinders contained in the kit (as it is really designed for a motorcycle tyre) will probably be insufficientl in capacity to fully inflate a car tyre after completing a road side repair - hence the 12v air compressor!

by **smokin** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:22 am

[quote="Stevef"]
.... First problem is the bracket isn't big enough for chassis attachment under dash. ....
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I replaced the nut of the bolt that secures the centre of the dash panel to the frame with this RAM part. http://www.ram-mount.co.uk/1-ball-with-m6-threaded-hole-p-1688-c-281.html

[quote="Stevef"]
Thanks again, can I ask where you chaps have or if you have wired the supply. Or do you just use the Atom extension and plug in cigarette lighter sort of attachment.
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I wired in a cig socket as I didn't have any unused 12v connections under the dash. Use it for my TPMS unless satnav needs charging

by **Stevef** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:00 am

Thanks again, can I ask where you chaps have or if you have wired the supply. Or do you just use the Atom extension and plug in cigarette lighter sort of attachment.

Cheers

Steve

by **Bruce Fielding** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:49 pm

[quote="autobackup"]
You can answer your phone using helmet speaker/mic or headset (Bluetooth) - you can also dial out (by voice if you wish)

To make it work you first pair your smartphone to the TomTom and then you pair your Bluetooth helmet speakers/Mic or Bluetooth headphones to the TomTom

Basically the TomTom becomes the controller of your smartphone and sits between your smartphone and your helmet speakers/mic/headphones

You don't have to pair a smartphone if you only want to hear the Satnav route guidance!
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However, if you use the data linkup from your smartphone, you also get to use TomTom Services which includes traffic information, which helps it plan better routes. And you can link up with other users and use MyDrive

by **Rocket Man** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:25 pm

My 2015 car I bought a few weeks ago already had the older model rider fitted but I already had a 400. I took the old one out and fitted the 400 to the existing mount. Just rewired the old one to use with a ram mount in the car. It's too good not to have a use for.
The 400 also came with a car mount so quite useful

by **autobackup** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:19 pm

You can answer your phone using helmet speaker/mic or headset (Bluetooth) - you can also dial out (by voice if you wish)

To make it work you first pair your smartphone to the TomTom and then you pair your Bluetooth helmet speakers/Mic or Bluetooth headphones to the TomTom

Basically the TomTom becomes the controller of your smartphone and sits between your smartphone and your helmet speakers/mic/headphones

You don't have to pair a smartphone if you only want to hear the Satnav route guidance!

by **Stevef** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:53 pm

Thanks for advice I invested in a 400 on Saturday. First problem is the bracket isn't big enough for chassis attachment under dash. Second
Oh can I repeat the above question, what does phone connection do?

by **Rocket Man** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:43 pm

what happens when you link it to your phone, sorry i am a gramophone man

by **Bruce Fielding** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:40 pm

I too have the TomTom 400 and in isolation it's not great - better and faster at keeping up with twisties than my old TomTom, but a little crude compared to other satnav out there. However, link it to your phone and it's pretty good.

The problems I have with it are that it doesn't link to mt Sony SBH50s and it doesn't like my Nexus 5X. Works fine with other Bluetooth helmet sets, and other phones but just not the ones I like. So either I compromise on one or the other.

Oh, and the mount for both Motorbike and Atom are great. And the Bike one is totally secure.

by **autobackup** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:29 pm

The factory offers a custom mount for the TomTom Rider which I had installed by them when my Atom was serviced last September.

- which, while it works adequately with smartphone, helmet speakers/mic (or Bluetooth headset when not using a helmet) and is also waterproof, is nowhere near as intuitive to use or, in my opinion, as good as the Garmins that I have in use in two other cars!

It came with 'Lifetime updates' of Western Europe maps but other areas can be easily downloaded (for a fee of course!) and installed to the Rider - the map databases can then be switched at will within the satnav itself.

Finally - 'Tyre' the TomTom desktop route planning App is, to put it bluntly, simply tiresome (sic!) to use as it uses Google maps which are, in many areas, extremely inaccurate and/or out of date!!

by **Rocket Man** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:24 pm

one of the 400 kits comes with a bike mount suitable for the Atom and a car mount so you can use in in your daily car. that kit also has a carry case for the sat nav and two security bits for if mounted to a bike. it also swivels from landscape to portrait

by **Rocket Man** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:21 pm

music---- phone------------ what next air con and cup holders

by **Alex Brandon-Smith** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:11 pm

The one thing i miss massively with the 400 compared to even my old Garmin is the ability to control the phone or store music. My old Garmin was great at that but now I need to play music through spotify etc but need to control with the phone. Not ideal. I also find it doesn't want to connect well with both phone and headset unless an update has sorted this. Check what you want from it before you buy it.

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