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I briefed over the 7 pages so forgive me if this has already been addressed.

Has it been considered to allow other Atom enthusiasts that don't yet have Atoms but may have other almost worthy cars...such as Lotus, Porsches, etc.?

I have a 2011 Boxster and would love to hang with you guys and admire your cars. Just a thought to get more attendance.

Bump, reminder - whatever you want to call it.  Aug 22nd - be there or be square.

Hi Ryan,

I just sent you an email.....

It's now a week past the deadline for the August 22 VIR track day.  Is it still on?

Unfortunately I couldn't commit myself and Nadine to attending the Superfest due to breaking my arm back in October. It's still not fully healed and I'm seeing another consultant next Tuesday for a second opinion after my GP and Physiotherapist became worried over the treatment I was receiving.

If things had started to improve I was going to jump in and book, but I'll see how they go next week and have a think about popping over for the August event as it would also be good to see the "Spec: RaceAtom" series running.

[quote="atomaker"]
August 22/11 Atom Owners Track Day at VIR:

Hi All,

We're making some new arrangements for a single day track event.  Instead of us tying up the forum with this info, we're creating an 'Owners' tab on our website (www.arielatom.com).  It could also serve as a secondary location ('bulletin board') for us to post overview info regarding Atom events organized by other owners (i.e., please see our previous posting, etc.).  Please check our website within the next couple of days for full details on the new event, etc.  Our window of opportunity to confirm this new (summer) event here, based on your interest & advanced commitments, will be quite limited.

Best regards,

The TMI AutoTech Team
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Thanks TMI!    Great announcements!  Your level of involvement is such vast improvement and a night and day difference from what we've seen in the past.  Bravo!

 Just stop it.   We'll all end up thinking the new U.S. Atom manufacturer really cares.    

August 22/11 Atom Owners Track Day at VIR:

Hi All,

We're making some new arrangements for a single day track event.  Instead of us tying up the forum with this info, we're creating an 'Owners' tab on our website (www.arielatom.com).  It could also serve as a secondary location ('bulletin board') for us to post overview info regarding Atom events organized by other owners (i.e., please see our previous posting, etc.).  Please check our website within the next couple of days for full details on the new event, etc.  Our window of opportunity to confirm this new (summer) event here, based on your interest & advanced commitments, will be quite limited.

Best regards,

The TMI AutoTech Team

Or just do what Peter does - I'll be at track "x" with wine and lots of meat for these three days, if you want to drive around the track, drink lots of beer, and generally have a good time, please sign up with the track organizer as soon as you can.

While it's "neat" to have nothing but atoms on track at one time, it really doesn't matter.  It's not like you're gonna stop and talk to the person you just passed 

Here's a few options, all for 2012.

TMI should try picking a set of three mid-week days in June or July of 2012, one day using the big course, the other two using the smaller course.  With over a year to go and a better, summertime date, more people may make a deposit.

Make it a shorter event, one or two days on-track at VIR so it's not as big of a block of time for which TMI would be on the hook.  Set one day at the track, then a touring day, and then a skills / autocross day.  It's still a three-day event, but only one expensive trackday commitment.

Support a "Grand Tour".  Sponsor one or two track days at tracks outside, but within a day of VIR.  People coming in could do Track A, convoy to VIR for the two- or three-day, simplified event, then convoy to Track B.  If it's close enough, TMI could have their transporter presence at all events so it's like a traveling trackday party over a six-day period.

It doesn't have to be a full-on, three-day, full-VIR-course event to work, as long as it's at a good time of year.

[quote="Bruce Fielding"]
That's a shame, because it's a reverse Catch 22... by offering an apparently unsuitable date to start with it would seem the likelihood of a more acceptable date has been scuppered.
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We'd have to see if Dave or Mark says I'm remembering incorrectly. While unfortunate, it does seem to reflect the realities of the situation. I assume there were no better dates available for this year, and at a reasonable cost. So if this year's plans had never happened, TMI might have booked the track for 2 or more "prime season" days in 2010. It would have either have been a great success, or they would have been stuck with the bill for a track rental where almost nobody showed up.

Given the state of AtomFest II, where Randy was wondering if anyone was coming (2 months after he'd opened registration he had 3 sign-ups), I can see why TMI would be nervous.

[quote="Terry Kennedy"]
I believe that TMI said that if the now-canceled Superfest was successful, they could look at better dates in the future.
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That's a shame, because it's a reverse Catch 22... by offering an apparently unsuitable date to start with it would seem the likelihood of a more acceptable date has been scuppered.

[quote="Driver"]
On the other hand you may actually GAIN just as many people if it was a holiday weekend. Some might look on it as a wholesome family holiday and more importantly, due to distances it might actually fit better when people are scheduling their vacations. Kinda hard to take a regular holiday and then within a short timeframe try to get a additional week off to drive halfway across the country... Much easier to tack several extra days onto the 3 or 4 you have already. Just a thought.
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Not to be too much of a wet blanket, but VIR is a popular track and without an upfront guarantee, I can't see VIR allocating 2 (or more) summer days for an Atom event. That guarantee is going to come from TMI. I don't know that they'd want to be stuck with the bill if not enough people registered to justify the event. I believe that TMI said that if the now-canceled Superfest was successful, they could look at better dates in the future.

Maybe Dave or Mark can post some info on the probability of a summer event at VIR, since I don't have any inside info. I did rent a different track for exclusive use, so I have a general idea of the situation, though.

[quote="atomathics"]
[quote="MadMaxAtom and company"]
Late May through early September would be ideal.
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That window is good.  They should take into account, though, the two US holidays in late May and early September, Memorial Day and Labor Day (and there's Independence Day, too).

Scheduling the event over one of those holiday weekends may lose attendees because some people will already have plans.[/quote]

These types of dates at icon tracks like VIR are unobtainable.  In my area Laguna Seca and Infineon rarely have track days in the summer, because the tracks are so busy preparing for and hosting major events like IRL, ALMS, NASCAR, etc.  Summer weekends are even more difficult, and summer holiday weekends are the least available and most expensive.  I'm sure this is the reason that TMI was stuck with the fall dates it had for their Atomfest.

[quote="atomathics"]
Scheduling the event over one of those holiday weekends may lose attendees because some people will already have plans.
[/quote]

On the other hand you may actually GAIN just as many people if it was a holiday weekend. Some might look on it as a wholesome family holiday and more importantly, due to distances it might actually fit better when people are scheduling their vacations. Kinda hard to take a regular holiday and then within a short timeframe try to get a additional week off to drive halfway across the country... Much easier to tack several extra days onto the 3 or 4 you have already. Just a thought.

[quote="MadMaxAtom and company"]
Late May through early September would be ideal.
[/quote]

That window is good.  They should take into account, though, the two US holidays in late May and early September, Memorial Day and Labor Day (and there's Independence Day, too).

Scheduling the event over one of those holiday weekends may lose attendees because some people will already have plans.