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I doubt you'd get 350BHP without a decat downpipe as well. ???

But its good to see this as an [i]option[/i] as the 4's get older. My car is 2 years old now. Ariel's goodwill support won't cover things forever so there is little reason to not try this for people in future. Its no use to me but if someone buys a cheaper second hand 4 IF the map delivers decent gains its great value! There is no reason chip tuning on common engines is necessarily bad. If these guys have experience with the engine the map could be decent....

But it will obviously not help your residuals if you go and mod away from Ariel. ;)

As far as I know in the Civic the downpipe more or less is the limiting factor, not the catalyst or at least not the Honda one.

Charlie

I think that the reference was to a sports CAT rather than the sports exhaust! :D

There are benefits to piggy back style as it keeps the standard low octane maps and it is the way race chip do it which I believe is a very reputable company also given it is essentially a civic type R engine I am sure there are plenty of experienced people working on the maps which is why it can be so cheap. With regards to the sports exhaust I do not believe it is mandatory for the remap sure I have seen factory cars with the 350bhp upgrade without the exhaust since it is too loud for most tracks.

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Is anyone really going to spend £50k+ on a bespoke car like the Atom then bung on a piggyback ecu?

Brave if you do. Ariel are brilliant at customer service but they're not fools. They will know pretty quickly if the engine has gone beyond its standard parameters.
I also suspect that the sports cat that they supply with their upgrade is pretty helpful in letting the gasses flow too.

Cheers,
Stu
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Since there isn't a warranty I dont see why Ariel would care, however I am inclined to agree that the Ariel upgrade must be better thought out ..

Is anyone really going to spend £50k+ on a bespoke car like the Atom then bung on a piggyback ecu?

Brave if you do. Ariel are brilliant at customer service but they're not fools. They will know pretty quickly if the engine has gone beyond its standard parameters.
I also suspect that the sports cat that they supply with their upgrade is pretty helpful in letting the gasses flow too.

Cheers,
Stu

So who is going to go first and report back ? ;-)

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I don’t think TDI North had anything to do with the Atom 4

That surprises me. I thought TDI did the map for Ariel, so I thought they would not be allowed to sell any ecu tuning upgrades, as they would be licensed to them.

Found this 350 BHP tuning kit for less than £400 https://tdi-tuning.com/en-gb/car/ariel/atom-4/20-turbo-315-bhp-320-ps-235-kw-400-nm-295-lbft/crtd4-multi-channel-with-rpm-petrol-tuning-box-chip. Looks good to me.