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by **Curves Junkie** » Fri May 14, 2021 10:04 am

HenryJS wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:47 am email me henry@arielmotor.co.uk and i will talk with our service team and see if we can solve the problem

I might advise first off - to disconnect the gauges etc you have added, and see if the lamp + immobiliser works normally without the extras.

[mention]HenryJS[/mention] thx for answering.

The oil pressure and oil temp gauges I had added have their own wiring totally extra from the Atom wiring.

As a reminder, the immobiliser itself works 100%.
I had not found the problem but I had found a dirty solution. I had cut both wires from the immobiliser lamp.

Next winter season I will connect an extra LED-lamp near the immobiliser unit - so I can check if there is a broken cable at the loom.

by **HenryJS** » Thu May 13, 2021 8:47 am

[mention]Curves Junkie[/mention]

I do try to keep a tab here and there on the forum!

email me henry@arielmotor.co.uk and i will talk with our service team and see if we can solve the problem

I might advise first off - to disconnect the gauges etc you have added, and see if the lamp + immobiliser works normally without the extras.

Thanks!

by **Curves Junkie** » Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:24 pm

John Scherrer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:07 pm Duff

useless, broken, or of poor quality
If you describe something as duff, you mean it is useless, broken, or of poor quality.

Thank you for the explanation.

Hedge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:02 am I wouldn't assume that. He certainly doesn't read everything on the forum. Why don't you just call him?

My English is not as well that I could explain the problem on the phone.

by **Hedge** » Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:02 am

Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:55 pmNo, I have not ask. @HenryJS always reads the forum, so I'm sure he already knows my problem

I wouldn't assume that. He certainly doesn't read everything on the forum. Why don't you just call him?

Cheers,
Hedge

by **John Scherrer** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:07 pm

Duff

useless, broken, or of poor quality
If you describe something as duff, you mean it is useless, broken, or of poor quality.

by **Curves Junkie** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:55 pm

Atlarge wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:45 pm I'd say you maybe out of luck - I did read something about the alarm not liking being without power for a long time but nothing useful to return it to it's regular state.

Really that is not a problem. Every winter I fiddled out the battery and put the battery in my office or in the basement.

Atlarge wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:45 pm Failing that, it may have just gone duff, have you asked the factory if they have any advice?

I can't translate "duff".
No, I have not ask. [mention]HenryJS[/mention] always reads the forum, so I'm sure he already knows my problem.

I like to repeat it again - I have no problem with function of the imobiliser. The car runs perfectly. Only the imobiliser LED has a malfunction.

by **Atlarge** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:45 pm

I'd say you maybe out of luck - I did read something about the alarm not liking being without power for a long time but nothing useful to return it to it's regular state. Failing that, it may have just gone duff, have you asked the factory if they have any advice?

by **Curves Junkie** » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:46 pm

Only one bundled wiring harness comes out of the immobiliser unit. These black cables end in a plug with many connections. There is also a small cable lug that is for the antenna. This big connector is then in turn plugged into a connector in the car wiring harness.
I have not changed anything here at all.

Look at your install instruction you can see the red LED with two little wires. I think here is the problem with this two wires or inside the unit.

by **Atlarge** » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:00 pm

one last thought... when you cleaned up the wiring did you combine the earths from the immobiliser ? Not sure why it makes a difference but the alarm install instructions mention it should be a separate earth (two earth wires) and not both combined to a single point.

by **Curves Junkie** » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:33 pm

John Scherrer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:23 pm Handbrake light is top, left
Immobiliser light is bottom left, next to Ignition.

That's correct.
I had showed in my first post in this thread.I had marked with a red coloured frame.

by **John Scherrer** » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:23 pm

Not sure about that - There's a different light for the Handbrake and the Immobiliser ..

Handbrake light is top, left
Immobiliser light is bottom left, next to Ignition.

by **autobackup** » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:52 pm

I think that in my old analogue SPA dash the immobiliser light (after the car was energised and the ignition active) also acted as the handbrake 'on' warning light - the problem in my case was with the handbrake microswitch (in the handbrake assembly itself) which needed to be lubricated and adjusted!

When my Atom was upgraded to be a 3.5R I changed to the digital dash - this was over 3 years ago now so my memory of exactly which light was involved may be wrong?

by **Curves Junkie** » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:24 am

John Scherrer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:57 am Did you remove and reconnect any electrical wires in your winter maintenance?

Good Morning John,

sure I had done.
This winter I had done a really, really big maintenance - started End of September but still not finished. 5 years in my ownership and 50000 on the clock with hard use in wind and bad weather I have renewed and improved a lot to make my Atom even better.
First engine run was on last Saturday. Removed all air bubbles from the cooling system yesterday . Now I have to do the setup on all four corners and corner weight to get ready to rumble.

Every winter the battery is "sleeping" in my warm office.

This winter maintenance I disconnect the SPA-dash from the wiring harness.
Adding some gauges, adding some wiring and fuses at the fuse department.
From the immobiliser I had all connectors removed for clean cable routing AND reconnect all of them again.

I have wiring information etc but don’t want to post on a public site .. I can see if I can PM it for you.

I will be happy if you send me a PM.
Maybe it will help and get me further in solving the problem with the burning lamp.

by **John Scherrer** » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:57 am

Did you remove and reconnect any electrical wires in your winter maintenance?

I have wiring information etc but don’t want to post on a public site .. I can see if I can PM it for you.

by **Curves Junkie** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:55 pm

John Scherrer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:02 pm I meant the 2 earth wires coming from the Immobiliser box itself.

Two earth wires??

John Scherrer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:02 pm but I understand that all the wires are coloured black but they had coloured sleeves on each wire to identify how to install the unit. In theory, the installer (Ariel build engineer) should remove the coloured sleeves on installation to make it more difficult to bypass or hotwire - not sure if Ariel do remove the coloured sleeves?

No sleeves on my wires.

I do not understand how the immobilser lamp work. Anybody who know that?

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