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Re: Quick Release steering hub

by John Scherrer » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:01 pm

The blank, raw upper column was £45 + VAT back in 2017

All revealed by k20a2 in this post here :-
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=16568&p=286383

(Looks like it still needed pinning and welding though)

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by stupot » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:44 pm

Sorry Charlie, I cannot remember what I paid but it was several years ago anyway; I passed all invoices/service history over to the next owner. It will be more expensive but you know it's been done right and is a straight swap. Give Ariel parts a call on Monday.

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Charlie » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:25 pm

stupot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:01 pm Sold the car in 2019 but up to then was fine with less play over longer period than the SPA. I think you have to accept some play is inevitable over time/mileage. I think it’s the alloy QR that wears vs the actual column splines.

Very easy to change with some care needed to get the key spline in the correct orientation so steered wheel was straight. Well worth doing if you have a SPA.

Do you mind me asking is it much more expensive than just the quick release hub to order the column too?

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by stupot » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:01 pm

Sold the car in 2019 but up to then was fine with less play over longer period than the SPA. I think you have to accept some play is inevitable over time/mileage. I think it’s the alloy QR that wears vs the actual column splines.

Very easy to change with some care needed to get the key spline in the correct orientation so steered wheel was straight. Well worth doing if you have a SPA.

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Atlarge » Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:33 pm

[mention]stupot[/mention] how is the lifeline holding up? I might see if I can get the upper column from Ariel too, how was it to replace?

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Fastlane » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:28 am

I had a quick release steering wheel on my Westfield and IMHO really wouldn't bother with one again, unless you have an access issue with it in place. I really don't think a joy rider would steal an Atom as it is far too visible, the parts are not valuable (except to another Atom) and if a professional really wants to steal it, they'd can just load it onto a trailer using a pair of wheel dollies or a lift.
Personally, I felt like a complete plonker walking around with my steering wheel, so in the end I would leave it in place, and then worry someone might steal the wheel... :doh:

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by stupot » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:43 am

I replaced the SPA on my 3 as it was worn with the Lifeline by ordering the new upper steering column shaft, with the spline already welded on, and QR hub from Ariel. Just had to swap them over.

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Charlie » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:44 pm

Atlarge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:00 pm @Charlie I was about to suggest the same thing, I think there are a few DIY jobs that are easy to do but messing with the steering in general isn’t one of them in my humble opinion. I have the quick release and often think I could do without it (they wear eventually and introduce play etc) they look good but I personally rarely use it - unless your a tall fella? ;-)

Thanks for your advice I have spoken to the factory and it appears there is much more to it than I thought and I think if I wanted it it would should really of been to order it during build as they said they use a different steering column unless anyone I have picked up wrong and anyone can advise different. And I am 6’1” I don’t have a problem getting in the car with wheel in place I just thought it was a bit extra security if I could take the wheel off.

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Atlarge » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:00 pm

[mention]Charlie[/mention] I was about to suggest the same thing, I think there are a few DIY jobs that are easy to do but messing with the steering in general isn’t one of them in my humble opinion. I have the quick release and often think I could do without it (they wear eventually and introduce play etc) they look good but I personally rarely use it - unless your a tall fella? ;-)

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Charlie » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:16 pm

Atlarge wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:09 pm Quick word of caution if you want to one to one swap out the quick releases from one make to another - the splines are not all clocked the same, which means either a realignment to straighten the wheel or replacement of the bung...

On my A3 I have the Spa version and wanted to replace it with the lifeline one, it’s fits the splines but the wheel is off by 30’ or so and I didn’t want to mess with the alignment etc.

Hi thanks for the info but as I do not already have a quick release fitted this could mean as I want to fit a weld on one to keep the steering wheel same distance away I may have to grind splines off which I have seen some people do online and I really do not want to do on a brand new car I have emailed Ariel with a few other questions and their service dept. are going to phone me it is a lifeline the same as Ariel use I want to fit but I now believe there is much more to it than originally perceived and beginning to wonder if I should have just got Ariel to do it in the first place regards. Charlie

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Atlarge » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:09 pm

Quick word of caution if you want to one to one swap out the quick releases from one make to another - the splines are not all clocked the same, which means either a realignment to straighten the wheel or replacement of the bung...

On my A3 I have the Spa version and wanted to replace it with the lifeline one, it’s fits the splines but the wheel is off by 30’ or so and I didn’t want to mess with the alignment etc.

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Sir Nick » Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:21 pm

This the power of the owners forum right here! Well done all!

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by Charlie » Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:07 pm

stupot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:58 pm The splined part is welded to the top steering column shaft
Ok thanks for the info

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by stupot » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:58 pm

The splined part is welded to the top steering column shaft

Re: Quick Release steering hub

by John Scherrer » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:48 pm

Sorry, I don’t know but I suspect the latter ..

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