by reg » Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:44 pm
hamtt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:38 am
No it wasn't lost keys. It was removing the nuts. If it was lost keys they would have invoiced the fob separately and charged for reprogramming it or probably replaced the whole immobiliser. And if it took them 3 hours to break off locking wheel nuts then clearly they're not very good at it. Take it to a tyre place and either they'll hammer on a similar sized socket or they'll weld on a hex nut and do all 4 in probably half an hour to an hour. I've had it done a few times over the years.
I'm sure hammering on an old socket and removing a knackered locking stud is fine on a Vauxhall Corsa, but with mag wheels probably better to be cautious?
hamtt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:38 am
Then watch and learn. Like I said, it may work, it may not.
learn what? I have ben involved in heavy engineering for 30 years, made all manner of things, and mistakes. Which is why filling knackered tubes, instead of doing the right thing is stupid.
hamtt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:38 am
Ha ha oh dear, you sound like one of the people who at the outset was threatening me I couldn't make wings for the atom because they were "patented" by Ariel. If the factory believes I have copied something of theirs, there's a simple way to resolve it - courts. And don't think for a second the factory haven't looked at every part I've done and explored their options.
Funny you mention 'courts' in the same sentence as your products
I think those of us who have ben around in the Ariel community for a while know it is best to avoid certain sellers.
hamtt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:38 am
Yes intelligent debate, not snootiness and closed rank "bullying" by established members. Intelligent debate involves an intelligent question and an intelligent response. Not the now-worn-out "oh no I wouldn't touch that with a barge pole because it's not done/made/repaired by the factory" and "oh wait - I'm gonna tell Mummy at the factory about this".
It isn't bullying whatsoever, it's people calling out BS. You have a problem with the factory and TBH have locked horns with most people on the forum over the years. Perhaps it's you?
hamtt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:38 am
Whatever the reason, I still say if you don't want to share the road with anything that may be written off repaired, damaged, leaking oil, potentially dangerous, you go buy a horse and cart. It's the drivers on a track that make it dangerous, not the cars. If that was the case then anyone without a whole F1 support team wouldn't be allowed on the track.
I'll get onto Amazon.
hamtt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:38 am
Can you guaranteed the correct tubing was used? Can you guarantee that the welder was competent and did an adequate job? What's more laughable than the filler is that you seem to find an undocumented larger and potentially more dangerous repair more acceptable than something that's transparent.
Are you an engineer Hammt? The point made was filling knackered tubing was stupid, it was then, it is now. They admit it themselves that they might go back and weld new parts in.
hammt wrote:
There's clearly an issue. The only response they got on here and Facebook from Atom owners was negative, until I posted on here and then some others said positive things. There's clearly issues with this "community" and like I said earlier, it's far displaced from the reality and perception of "normal" people, and if you don't see that, you're part of the problem. Hitler didn't see anything wrong with what he was doing either.
Hilter? Are you really trying to draw parallels between people posting negative responses of shite repairs with a man who killed 16 million people. Turth be told if the luftwaffe had used your carbon products the war would have been over much sooner. Stay classy Hammt.
[quote=hamtt post_id=307527 time=1645353512 user_id=2907]
No it wasn't lost keys. It was removing the nuts. If it was lost keys they would have invoiced the fob separately and charged for reprogramming it or probably replaced the whole immobiliser. And if it took them 3 hours to break off locking wheel nuts then clearly they're not very good at it. Take it to a tyre place and either they'll hammer on a similar sized socket or they'll weld on a hex nut and do all 4 in probably half an hour to an hour. I've had it done a few times over the years.[/quote]
I'm sure hammering on an old socket and removing a knackered locking stud is fine on a Vauxhall Corsa, but with mag wheels probably better to be cautious?
[quote=hamtt post_id=307527 time=1645353512 user_id=2907]
Then watch and learn. Like I said, it may work, it may not.
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learn what? I have ben involved in heavy engineering for 30 years, made all manner of things, and mistakes. Which is why filling knackered tubes, instead of doing the right thing is stupid.
[quote=hamtt post_id=307527 time=1645353512 user_id=2907]
Ha ha oh dear, you sound like one of the people who at the outset was threatening me I couldn't make wings for the atom because they were "patented" by Ariel. If the factory believes I have copied something of theirs, there's a simple way to resolve it - courts. And don't think for a second the factory haven't looked at every part I've done and explored their options.[/quote]
Funny you mention 'courts' in the same sentence as your products :roflp: I think those of us who have ben around in the Ariel community for a while know it is best to avoid certain sellers.
[quote=hamtt post_id=307527 time=1645353512 user_id=2907]
Yes intelligent debate, not snootiness and closed rank "bullying" by established members. Intelligent debate involves an intelligent question and an intelligent response. Not the now-worn-out "oh no I wouldn't touch that with a barge pole because it's not done/made/repaired by the factory" and "oh wait - I'm gonna tell Mummy at the factory about this".
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It isn't bullying whatsoever, it's people calling out BS. You have a problem with the factory and TBH have locked horns with most people on the forum over the years. Perhaps it's you?
[quote=hamtt post_id=307527 time=1645353512 user_id=2907]
Whatever the reason, I still say if you don't want to share the road with anything that may be written off repaired, damaged, leaking oil, potentially dangerous, you go buy a horse and cart. It's the drivers on a track that make it dangerous, not the cars. If that was the case then anyone without a whole F1 support team wouldn't be allowed on the track.
[/quote]
I'll get onto Amazon.
[quote=hamtt post_id=307527 time=1645353512 user_id=2907]
Can you guaranteed the correct tubing was used? Can you guarantee that the welder was competent and did an adequate job? What's more laughable than the filler is that you seem to find an undocumented larger and potentially more dangerous repair more acceptable than something that's transparent.
[/quote]
Are you an engineer Hammt? The point made was filling knackered tubing was stupid, it was then, it is now. They admit it themselves that they might go back and weld new parts in.
[quote=hammt]
There's clearly an issue. The only response they got on here and Facebook from Atom owners was negative, until I posted on here and then some others said positive things. There's clearly issues with this "community" and like I said earlier, it's far displaced from the reality and perception of "normal" people, and if you don't see that, you're part of the problem. Hitler didn't see anything wrong with what he was doing either.
[/quote]
Hilter? Are you really trying to draw parallels between people posting negative responses of shite repairs with a man who killed 16 million people. Turth be told if the luftwaffe had used your carbon products the war would have been over much sooner. Stay classy Hammt.